Disturbing a cleave PT on purpose to hurt a group, [again or not again ToS?]

[Ilax]

sadly with FC going on, SE reduced the total number of mobs you can get exp off of at once time. anything over 8 at a time you wont get exp. CW burn all kinds. Havent tried to get chain 9+ outside aby but inside limit is 8. as far as this main topic, i have only 1 question: Why has he singled you out? I use to be a jerk and Dia a SM burn as soon as I saw 1st 2hr go off. was np to kill a pt like that @75 and could easily hold hate and tank them all as rdm with spikes up But I talked to a GM 1st, they said "As long as the monster is Yellow its fair game" the GM didnt care if I was doing it to be a jerk or just farming so long as I didnt brag about it.once that happend I would have been Jail state

But explain me how that is not again KB Article: 12559? Is all this a lack of knowledge from GM?

[Zagen]

sadly with FC going on, SE reduced the total number of mobs you can get exp off of at once time. anything over 8 at a time you wont get exp. CW burn all kinds. Havent tried to get chain 9+ outside aby but inside limit is 8. as far as this main topic, i have only 1 question: Why has he singled you out? I use to be a jerk and Dia a SM burn as soon as I saw 1st 2hr go off. was np to kill a pt like that @75 and could easily hold hate and tank them all as rdm with spikes up But I talked to a GM 1st, they said "As long as the monster is Yellow its fair game" the GM didnt care if I was doing it to be a jerk or just farming so long as I didnt brag about it.once that happend I would have been Jail state

Haven't Whisker farmed in some time now but the log only shows 8 instances the amount is much higher if you parse the EXP instead of reading the logs. Regardless pulling more mobs = more blue chests = more exp over time.

[Ilax]

Haven't Whisker farmed in some time now but the log only shows 8 instances the amount is much higher if you parse the EXP instead of reading the logs. Regardless pulling more mobs = more blue chests = more exp over time.

Might be true for CW, but is not for FC, Fell cleave is not accurate, so not all the monster take the same DMG, and most of the time only half the link die if not even less, and if you a bright cleaver, you wait 3 sec, and cleave other half to get 16~20 out of ~25 monster. Is very important, and make all the difference between a FC that make 120k/h and 200k+/h.

That guy sounds like a major dick. Mind sharing his name?

I can't, that would totally break the forum guide line.

[Pikel]

I have blu burned a lot trying to get KI. I find there are a bunch of people that just love to wander into your camp and steal your monsters. Leonlionheart is right. If people would just ask before hand you can save a lot of drama. I other camp is there to build time then join me I will build time as long as I get my KI. If you wanted spawns we trade them easy enough. If you wanted to leech jobs I typically had a full party of my own friends doing same. However if you come and aoe my mobs weather it's ws or spells I take that as a challenge. So far I haven't been pushed out yet and we typically laugh at the people trying to steal my monsters. As for Ilax's problem I have yet to come across someone like that. I would be interested in hearing how it turns out as it would restore the little faith I have in SE.

[Ilax]

I mean i can understand that someone might have a bad day, and out of no where toss is frustration and kill all mob from a cleaver, that frustrating, but you can move on quick from this.

But is all another story when the same guy is there for 2h long and that twice, brag about it, and say how he is the new Robin Wood and will save the game from the noob by coming every time i cleave.

We always have pop item in bazaar for 1 gil, i saw so many group pop the NM multiple time, and get pop item from our bazaar multiple time with no problem, heck i even invited a full PT when i had room to finish they trial on "bomb", and did same for fish. I'm not there to hurt anyone, i left Altepa mandies because it was a drama festival everyday, and i got tire of it, so i moved to Vunk on fish/bomb where no one have interest to cleave them, of course is less experience, but we find out over time is more Exp since there no drama/no interruption, well that was until that guy...

Again, i want to point out about KB12559, evidence in log or not, standing next to a cleave PT and AGA they monster every time they are 5~10% and that for several minute, is all again the Rule. I just cannot understand how action is not taken immediately.

[FrankReynolds]

Way i see it if your pulling all the mobs and i need something from those mobs im going to cleave your stack regardless yellow is yellow and you have no claim to them all apart from your red mob if you have them slept for charged whisker im sorry but you run the risk of dying and i wouldn't give a stuff if you did.

In your case Ilax that guy seems to be a huge dick head following you around.

I usually FC, WC or AE burn with my mule. If anyone wanted to xp at that camp, they could just ask to team up. it would be better for both of us. If they needed a drop, they could just ask, or check the 1 gil bazaar items. Some people just want to be dicks. I guess your one of them.

[Camiie]

I know exactly who Ilax is talking about since we're both on Fenrir. This same guy did the same thing to a friend of mine's cleave party. I can't name names either but he's definitely a repeat offender. Just searched him and he's online and in one of the zones he pulls this stunt in.

[Leonlionheart]

I know exactly who Ilax is talking about since we're both on Fenrir. This same guy did the same thing to a friend of mine's cleave party. I can't name names either but he's definitely a repeat offender. Just searched him and he's online and in one of the zones he pulls this stunt in.

Must be a drama llama lover, there's no real reason to repeat this to multiple people

[Camiie]

Must be a drama llama lover, there's no real reason to repeat this to multiple people

The griefer said he'd accept gil from my friend to leave. I'm not sure if that's always his motive or not.

[Leonlionheart]

The griefer said he'd accept gil from my friend to leave. I'm not sure if that's always his motive or not.

What in the world...

How I've handled this issue in the past is to stop for about 10~15min. Then let him start pulling and then Diaga his slept mobs until he can't handle it and dies. Alternatively, when he sleeps/pulls mobs, just do it back to him. If he's just sniping your mobs at low health, use a strategy that removes the lesser amount of HP first (Whirl of Rage -> Enervation -> Charged Whisker with good builds should put the mobs out of 1hit range for AE and his AE will get him hate, then you can CW when he stops running away for the kills)

Most of the time they quit within 10 minutes of you being inactive.

I'd go as far as to say that I occasionally enjoy the competition for pops when they become dickheads about it, because more often than not I can kill mobs much, much more efficiently than they can.