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    Player Moonracer's Avatar
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    Interesting Suggestion

    Kk, with all the fuss goin on for RDM lately, I figured why not throw my two gil in? I get mixed thoughts on this when I mention it, but considering that RDM is the amalgamation of whm and blm, I thought of a possibility that everyone might be happy with for rdm:

    Job Ability: Spellweave
    Recast Time: 5 Minutes
    Duration: 30 seconds

    Allows Red Mage to "Combine" two spells, creating a new spell list. This can range from a combination of spells, or if casting two of the same spell, will cast a spell of the next tier. (I.E. 2 Cure IV = Cure V, 2 Bio III = Bio IV, Regen + Refresh = Regain, Protect + Shell = Wall)

    To make a downside for it, double the recast timer for said spells when used under this effect. If two of the same spell, triple recast timer. Thoughts? I've always wanted to see something of this effect in the game, and tbh, if anyone watches/remembers the official game video for this, the story of Wolfgang (i think its him anyway), during the battle at night, you see mages casting simultaneously to create a single stronger spell. They were blms, but imo rdm should get this ability, and let blm have doublecast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonracer View Post
    Kk, with all the fuss goin on for RDM lately, I figured why not throw my two gil in? I get mixed thoughts on this when I mention it, but considering that RDM is the amalgamation of whm and blm, I thought of a possibility that everyone might be happy with for rdm:

    Job Ability: Spellweave
    Recast Time: 5 Minutes
    Duration: 30 seconds

    Allows Red Mage to "Combine" two spells, creating a new spell list. This can range from a combination of spells, or if casting two of the same spell, will cast a spell of the next tier. (I.E. 2 Cure IV = Cure V, 2 Bio III = Bio IV, Regen + Refresh = Regain, Protect + Shell = Wall)

    To make a downside for it, double the recast timer for said spells when used under this effect. If two of the same spell, triple recast timer. Thoughts? I've always wanted to see something of this effect in the game, and tbh, if anyone watches/remembers the official game video for this, the story of Wolfgang (i think its him anyway), during the battle at night, you see mages casting simultaneously to create a single stronger spell. They were blms, but imo rdm should get this ability, and let blm have doublecast.
    Too difficult to code on the server side. Plus your really just doing if for a backdoor Cure V access, although at 5 min I don't see it changing much.

    Just create new spells, easier and less room for SE to screw up.
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    Player Moonracer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Too difficult to code on the server side. Plus your really just doing if for a backdoor Cure V access, although at 5 min I don't see it changing much.

    Just create new spells, easier and less room for SE to screw up.
    Actually i'm against RDM getting Cure V

    Lol and if you wanna go with the majority of people who complain about stuff, apparently it doesnt take much to code anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonracer View Post
    Actually i'm against RDM getting Cure V

    Lol and if you wanna go with the majority of people who complain about stuff, apparently it doesnt take much to code anything.
    Stuff like Temper it doesn't, they're just adding something already in the game. Your suggestion doesn't exist so this does require quite a bit. That said, you've more chance suggesting it for SCH or WHM, if SE did like the idea they wouldn't give it to RDM.
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    Player Moonracer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Stuff like Temper it doesn't, they're just adding something already in the game. Your suggestion doesn't exist so this does require quite a bit. That said, you've more chance suggesting it for SCH or WHM, if SE did like the idea they wouldn't give it to RDM.
    Well i was thinking this for rdm because of being able to access multiple schools of magic. WHM is pretty much thrown out of this already for that exact reason imo. wouldnt see too much use for it anyway. SCH already has both schools, but has to use strategems and such to be able to access either/or, so makes it unrealistic. BLM could have a use for this, but blm has enough already lol, which leaves the best for last, RDM. I know it'd take a bit of coding, but most of that would be for the ability to do such itself. More than likely they'd create a new job based around this, which would be cool, but suck at the same time, but imo this would be one of the best options for rdm, accessing somewhat a whole new spell list for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonracer View Post
    More than likely they'd create a new job based around this, which would be cool, but suck at the same time, but imo this would be one of the best options for rdm, accessing somewhat a whole new spell list for them.
    The Bold is what would actually happen if they took the time to code all this. The underlined is what would actually help RDM...new spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonracer View Post
    Actually i'm against RDM getting Cure V

    Lol and if you wanna go with the majority of people who complain about stuff, apparently it doesnt take much to code anything.
    *Laugh* yeah some people...

    I'm in favor of making things as easy as possible for implementation. The more complicated something is the more places for something to go wrong or to be broken. FFXI has a veritable graveyard full of "good ideas" that had horrible execution / implementation.
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    The closest you could have gotten is Immanence and they gave that to SCH.

    If you are looking for an interesting and innovative job, you really should look elsewhere. RDM is really only about nostalgia at this point. SE can change that if they wish, but they haven't given us any clear indication of what they are doing and where they are going with the job. Shield Master and Magic Burst Bonus? That paints a pretty clear picture...
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    It's not that people don't want cool stuff to play with, it's just that you can't even get people to SC anymore. So why not just ask for new spells?

    I personally want more Dark Magic on RDM, why? Because DRKs don't use absorbs to enfeeble and I would.
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    I would want the same Enspell 3s as you. Same Enfeebles without merits.

    I would really like an Elemental WS that hits very hard. Our WS gear is ok for physical WS, but if you gave us a native WS that based off our Mage side, it would do very well. Sanguine Blade is very good, but it doesn't SC and we have to give up dual wield for it.

    The job trait I want the most at this point is Occult Acumen. With /DRK + Oneiros Robe, I can easily get 10% TP for a Thunder IV. If you want to make RDMs TP better, that is the easiest enhancement you can give them, because you can TP from the back line if you need to.
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