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    Square-enix, I beg you.

    I beg you as a loyal fan of Final Fantasy XI and Square-enix in general. Please drop PS2 so we can move on and bring the game back to the greatness it once was. I see little hints here and there but you tell us nothing. People are losing faith in the game and I see my friends slowly but surely disappear from the game. It makes me sad to see my first and favorite MMO that I have spent so much of my time on reduced to this. I have noticed things like:\

    * Playability enhancements (The FINAL FANTASY XI roadmap for the twelve-month period commencing April 2011)

    * Survey: Which Game Client Do You Use? (08/31/2011) (Playonline.com)

    And the phasing out of the POL service little by little.

    Please Square-enix, if you have anything planed at least let us know or give us some kind of hint. So we can have hope for the future of Vana 'diel.
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    Deading a beat horse.
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    THey are NOT going to rebuild the game engine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    THey are NOT going to rebuild the game engine...
    Oh, I know that. This game has terrible coding. I just wish they would drop ps2 so the can add new content like an new expansion or something. The PS2 HDD has been an issue for so long and if they dropped it then they could add some "New" stuff and not just changes to old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealingWind93 View Post
    Oh, I know that. This game has terrible coding. I just wish they would drop ps2 so the can add new content like an new expansion or something. The PS2 HDD has been an issue for so long and if they dropped it then they could add some "New" stuff and not just changes to old content.
    From a pretty logical standpoint(and with the knowledge that i have FFXI on 3 platforms), i have a question and maybe can you answer it for me OP: What effect would dropping PS2 support actually have?

    I just been meaning to ask this question again for a while now and you get the duty of answering.

    From what i remember of FFXI's history, the game was originally coded for both PS2 and PC with PS2 getting the game first. So even if the PS2 was dropped, wouldn't SE essentially have to rewrite a bunch of code for anything to actually change? Just wondering here.

    I mean do you really think that right now SE would even consider essentially remaking XI while they are still pulling an Ahab chasing a way to salvage XIV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritreaver View Post
    From a pretty logical standpoint(and with the knowledge that i have FFXI on 3 platforms), i have a question and maybe can you answer it for me OP: What effect would dropping PS2 support actually have?
    Some things they would have to recode. A graphical overhaul will be necessary for future compatibility (as Atomic_Skull pointed out), but most people don't event want better graphics, they want better gameplay. Inventory space, the notorious example, would require no recode, it would just require changing the upper cap from 80 to, say, 100. And possibly adding a quest for it. Same goes for some UI improvements. Your last point, however, stands, and I don't think they'll do anything for FFXI until they've either fixed the current state of FFXIV or removed it altogether, none of which I think will realistically happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glacont View Post
    Does not matter if you're against. The situation that we're in, PS2 Gamers still playing, remains unchange. No need to reply. Our conversation is closed.
    Good, then you won't talk back anymore. PS2 gamers are playing (allegedly) but they shouldn't. That's the point.
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    (Allegedlly) is the wrong word. [Fact] is correct. Ps2 players do exist on FFXI. Hence the purpose of this thread, and few others whom state thier opinoin on the subject matter. Weather You're fore or against is not important. It won't change what's happening. You can continue to present your opnion, or inject any rude comments, but each day after work I log on and play.
    And let's say one day SE does cut Ps2 off, that won't matter either. From 2004 to 2011, I have had a Great Run. I Remain On Top. Now, I only replied because I have time before work. You won't be seeing Me checking the forums to see if "such n' such" replies back. I'll be too busy enjoying My time spent with lsmates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    THey are NOT going to rebuild the game engine...

    So I guess that mean FFXI will start to die around late 2012 when Windows 8 starts shipping standard on new PCs (word is that Windows 8 has dropped DirectX 8 emulation)

    No DirectX 8, no FFXI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psxpert2011 View Post
    Processing power can't be upgraded for PS2 but I know how to upgrade MY HDD, I still have the HDD software from stock purchase and the hardware can be formated to perform just nicely. 250 GB and 10000 RPMs anyone? ^^b
    Doesn't matter because the DNAS servers are frozen and only maintained for legacy purposes at this point, which means Sony won't accept an application to increase FFXI's hard driver partition size. Basically they are just running in a closet somewhere with minimal maintenance.
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    oh yes. please drop your loyal paying ps2 costumers to make a few ppl happier. Just ditch em'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    oh yes. please drop your loyal paying ps2 costumers to make a few ppl happier. Just ditch em'
    They don't care about you. They care about your money. that said, You could probably get a free computer on craigslist that runs FFXI better than PS2.

    also I'd like to say....

    i strongly doubt SE with drop PS2 Support, because this game is their income to revive Fu**ing Failure XIV, Which FYI, Will never happen. Name me one game that was thusly the most disappointingly terrible game of the year and had such horrific press, that somehow managed to come back from that and be a successful game? theres none, its a waste of time. Like 10 people care about that game anymore, and half of them only care because its currently free. Anyway, They wont drop PS2 Support because its just more money they'd lose.

    Its just unrealistic from a companies perspective to drop that many people, not because they care about their "Loyal Customers" (They dont, you're nobody to them, nothing but a number), But simply because It would cut into their bottom line.

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    Deading a beat horse.
    and just for emphases, PS2 Players, I hate you, Not because you're "Holding back XI", Cause i don't think you are. the game is nearly 10 years old, I really don't care about graphical overhauls at this point, and pretty much the only thing "PS2 Limitations" actually do is stop our inventory from going above 80, but thankfully theres a loopwhole in that.

    No, its because theres only maybe 1-2 excuses that can justify your incomprehensible need to play on such a terrible outdated system. there is not a single positive element to it. nothing. If you can afford 12.95+ a month for nearly 7 Years, you can afford to buy the game for the PC or Xbox360. If you don't own a PC? Tell me what third world country you live in and i"ll mail you one.

    I can understand some people are in tough financial situations, thats the excuse i can relate too and accept.

    But if we're honest for a moment, half of you still play on PS2 cause you're too lazy or cheap to buy the PC version, or worse, have some stupid PS2 Pride BS because you think it makes you cool to defend that dinosaur, and that's just plain dumb. If you're going to blow 12.95+ A month on a game, you may as well be able to actually see what your playing in a higher resolution than 8-bit, and a better FPS rating so you can actually do something in it when more than 3 people on are on your screen.

    Even if its "I like the controller" (Which is clumsy and slow), Theres like a multitude of things you can do to hook up a controller to your PC and play with that, and on the PC, and since your FPS would be higher than 4, you could actually do things with it reliably.

    So basically you're robbing yourself of experiencing FFXI as it was meant to be played, above 3 frames per second with higher graphical resolution than a Gameboy Color.

    PS2 Was pretty much just a gimic to make FFXI a "Console MMO" and hopefully drive sales anyway. Xbox360 as well, but that was more of an afterthought me thinks

    Anyway, PS2 Rant off. You guys go back to playing your game. and try to enjoy yourselves. I know how difficult it can be running through port jeuno with 1 frame per second and everything looking like Minecraft

    Now, I'll sit here quietly awaiting the fevered responses of angry PS2 Players attempting to explain to me their reasoning for using it. You know you want too, You cannot resist the urge.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 10-10-2011 at 03:56 AM.

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