Thread: Dynamis Version 2.0

Jugs are fine, they need to modify claim system. If pet attacks something and the master is engaged to something else, it wont claim. That way bst's cant more or less fight 2 mobs at once.

Originally Posted by Angelkiller

or 3. make jugs not available at Dynamis and mobs charmable

Somehow I don't feel like forcing bsts to charm mobs that you want to kill for currency is the right move when mob shortage is the issue in question...

Also I see nins and dncs and even the occasional blu fighting 3-5 mobs at once, so it's certainly not accurate to say this is a bst only thing.

That is true too...WS and MA procs being utter fails

[23:44:27]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:31]Vermy starts casting Cure IV on Nynja.
[23:44:36]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:41]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:45]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:49]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:53]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:44:57]The Nightmare Hippogryph readies Nihility Song.
[23:44:58]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:00]Kehhiko's Haste effect wears off.
[23:45:03]Vermy starts casting Haste on Nynja.
[23:45:03]The Nightmare Hippogryph uses Nihility Song.
[23:45:03]1 of Kehhiko's effects disappears!
[23:45:08]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:13]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:18]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:23]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:27]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:31]Vermy starts casting Cure IV on Nynja.
[23:45:37]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:41]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:44]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:48]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:53]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:45:57]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:01]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:06]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:09]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:14]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:19]Vermy starts casting Cure IV on Nynja.
[23:46:24]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:29]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:33]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:37]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:42]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:45]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:50]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:46:55]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:00]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:04]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:09]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:13]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:17]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:21]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:26]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:30]Vermy starts casting Stone on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:34]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:38]Vermy starts casting Haste on Nynja.
[23:47:44]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.
[23:47:48]Vermy starts casting Cure IV on Nynja.
[23:47:53]Vermy starts casting Dia on the Nightmare Hippogryph.

---TIME CHANGE---

[23:48:06]Kehhiko's attack staggers the fiend!
[23:48:06]Time left: (0:00:29)
[23:48:06]Unable to use job ability.
[23:48:06]Kehhiko uses Haste Samba.
[23:48:06]Kehhiko gains the effect of Haste Samba.
[23:48:07]The Nightmare Hippogryph is out of range.
[23:48:07]Kehhiko uses Box Step.
[23:48:07]The Nightmare Hippogryph is afflicted with Sluggish Daze (lv.1).
[23:48:08]The Nightmare Hippogryph is too far away.

0/41 on MA proc, then go 1/1 on JA proc...

and the stupidity of the player base that demands their group of 4 fight EP's instead of fighting the DC-EM's the soloers can't touch a minute's walk away.

Why fight DC/EM/T when EP have the same drop rate but are 20 lvls lower?

Originally Posted by Calamity

Also I see nins and dncs and even the occasional blu fighting 3-5 mobs at once, so it's certainly not accurate to say this is a bst only thing.

While they can do it, its less efficient for them if they're alone cause they wont be able to use TP on WS's, so they'll have to wear down 3-5 mobs just from DoT.

And here your credibility gets shot to 0...You were doing cop dyna at 90? I guess you went in underleveled because...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/15044

CoP Dyna was added the same time that the 95 patch was done. OOPS.

You were farming cop dyna bst/dnc the day it came out? I'm pretty sure it took like 2 weeks for people to figure out the new proc system related to times.

I'll be sure to post some EM/T Hippogryphs while I'm getting 20m TE for you.


Actually coming to think about it, I dont remember seeing any DC mobs, only EM/T, and my friend in dyna confirmed it too by checking a couple when he was getting his TE.

Originally Posted by Angelkiller

Main Dynamis problems atm :


1. How can it be that only 2/20 jobs have a use in a Multiplayer event ?

It's true that BST is superior (solo), however people have to think out of the box and not follow the preformated methods that you can find on average froums like BG or alla. If you try to look around of what is doable in dynamis you will see various facts :

SOLO : nothing can beat BST, clearly, because they have TH and THF cannot seriously proc and cure themselves.

DUO you have much better optionS than BST and since JA camps are currently packed ( 1 single bst ruins any camp so you can allow a max of 3 bst at the time per zone for running to be worth it and
bubu/qufim have each a mob that sucks cactuar/uragnite so make it two bsts), a very good alternative is WS proc. The problem is that most players don't think out of the box and don't try personnal strategies. I know for a fact that T camp have higher procrate and higher droprate so that double the amount of camps, all which are not doable by BSTs solo. A melee+mage combo will proc tough WS mobs at high rate but someohow it hurts people not use their awesome weapons (because for this method you obviously need to minimize damage). Typically I can do it on MNK while footwork is active with stockpiled storetp/defender and other gimpage to damage, it's clear that a simple MNK/WAR + WHM/THF combo using this technique will perform better than bst, at least if you have a dual boxed mule. Somehow I have doubt about DNC being a serious enough DD to take down T mobs fast enough so for duo there is not much better. For trio+ it's clearly everyone /war and tough camps but some people are stubborn and would rather halve their coins over fighting "harder" (tough mobs lolz) mobs.