Whats with all the junk?

[Camiie]

He didn't say the events are junk. He said the rewards are junk, and for the most part he's right. I can understand getting vendor trash off of common mobs, but some of the items in event and NM loot pools are more like insults than rewards. If I want lynx meat I'll farm lynxes. That's not why I fight Shinryu. If I want logs and ores I'll log and mine. That's not why I go to WoE.

Am I supposed to feel good when I kill some uber NM and walk away with nothing but logs, ores, and meat that are already as common as dirt? It's not like I'm getting cashmere from Bahamut or Vrtra back when it was a valuable material. This is stuff so worthless it doesn't even cover food, ninja tool, or pet item costs in some cases.

[Greatguardian]

If I want logs and ores I'll log and mine.

Not if you're like 99.99% of the playerbase, you won't. Instead you'll (general case) just bitch, moan, and make topics on General Discussion about how ores and logs are never on the Auction House and SE needs to do something about revitalizing crafting.

Except that already happened, which probably has a little something to do with why we're seeing all this useless crap everywhere.

Honestly, throwing in crap mats is better than throwing in nothing. I'd be all for a drop rate increase for good items, but there's no reason to get rid of the consolation prizes. If it's not worth the inventory space, toss it.

[Ophannus]

The intent of making all those junk once-good-items now cheap is to make good level 75 gear super accessible because 75 isn't the level cap anymore, so things like Noble Tunic/Barone Corazza/Dragon Harness and assorted cursed gear are now dirt cheap to synth.

[Camiie]

Honestly, throwing in crap mats is better than throwing in nothing. I'd be all for a drop rate increase for good items, but there's no reason to get rid of the consolation prizes. If it's not worth the inventory space, toss it.

Yeah I'd be down with an increase for the good stuff. Then it might not feel like we're getting trash INSTEAD of the good drops.

[Nynja]

Not if you're like 99.99% of the playerbase, you won't. Instead you'll (general case) just bitch, moan, and make topics on General Discussion about how ores and logs are never on the Auction House and SE needs to do something about revitalizing crafting.

Except that already happened, which probably has a little something to do with why we're seeing all this useless crap everywhere.

Honestly, throwing in crap mats is better than throwing in nothing. I'd be all for a drop rate increase for good items, but there's no reason to get rid of the consolation prizes. If it's not worth the inventory space, toss it.

Except these crap mats arent put onto the AH to be used by the playerbase...they're NPC'd.

[Leonlionheart]

Except these crap mats arent put onto the AH to be used by the playerbase...they're NPC'd.

because the player base only knows how to undercut

[Ladycandygem]

because the player base only knows how to undercut

It is basic economics. Price is determined by supply and demand. If supply outstrips demand by enough to push the price to near or below the NPC price there is no reason to put the item on the Auction House. Clearly not enough people want this junk or its price would be higher.

Add the fact that you can only place 7 items at a time on the AH and that things like logs and ores don't stack. This is why the junk is NPC'd.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Clearly not enough people want this junk or its price would be higher.

It's not just that few people want it, it's that few people actually have synthesis high enough to make use of it.

About the only people who can make use of these high-skill mats are players who skilled their synth back when it was profitable to do so and are basically grandfathered in at this point.

I would wager the percentage of players with a 100 synthesis skill has gone down through old players quitting more than it's gone up with new players improving their skills.

[Nynja]

I would wager the percentage of players with a 100 synthesis skill has gone down through old players quitting more than it's gone up with new players improving their skills.

Thats cause its hardly useful at this point, nothing is synthed really.

And heres what you can make with petrified log:
* Ancient Lumber - Woodworking (72)
* Chocobo Carvings - Synergy 75
* Freshwater Aquarium - Woodworking (80) Alchemy (36)
* River Aquarium - Woodworking (79) Alchemy (?)
* Sanctified Lumber - Woodworking (73)

Bottom 4 are meh (Sanct lumber is for an enhancement shield)...Heres what you can make with ancient lumber:
a bunch of furninshings, cursed kabuto/kote/togi, a skillup item till wood98, and junk

[Felren]

It's not just that few people want it, it's that few people actually have synthesis high enough to make use of it.

About the only people who can make use of these high-skill mats are players who skilled their synth back when it was profitable to do so and are basically grandfathered in at this point.

I would wager the percentage of players with a 100 synthesis skill has gone down through old players quitting more than it's gone up with new players improving their skills.

The junk mats are almost all for 75 gear that has been paved over by new pieces. Having more 100 crafters wouldn't help. There really is no incentive to level up an old craft at this point unless you want to either:
1. Level synergy too or
2. Stand by a cruicible while a synergist does the work