Wtf SE

[Cljader1]

SMNs bitching years ago when SCH could aoe stoneskin and blink.
WHMs bitching about SCH stoneskin and blink natively.
RDMs bitching that SMN's diabolos Noctoskin giving.
DNCs bitching about wild flourish being ripped off by SAM's Konzen-ittai that gives the same chainbound effect.

What are you talking about, none of those are the jobs best spells, and those are not top tier job defining spells either, your comparisons are bogus. Why are you even in the drk forums, you offer nothing are far as i'm concerned your just an ant on the wall clamouring for attention, second of all you dont even play drk so how can you offer constructive criticism...wait I know...you cant!

[Nightfyre]

What are you talking about, none of those are the jobs best spells, and those are not top tier job defining spells either, your comparisons are bogus. Why are you even in the drk forums, you offer nothing are far as i'm concerned your just an ant on the wall clamouring for attention, second of all you dont even play drk so how can you offer constructive criticism...wait I know...you cant!

Have we really regressed to thinking that you have to play a job to understand it? Ridiculous. Dread Spikes isn't even particularly interesting for PUP, the job favors master damage moreso than BST or SMN and its pets aren't as sturdy. Absorb-Attri offers situational boosts to the pet but it's only part of the job's output, not the whole... and it's my understanding that you have to use a specific combination of automaton parts (Spiritreaver/Harlequin) to even gain access to the spells, which imposes its own limitations. DRK wasn't even the first one to get such a spell anyway, BLU has had Osmosis for over a year now and Voracious Trunk for years before that... you didn't see BLUs QQing about Absorb-Attri, get over yourself.

[Cljader1]

Have we really regressed to thinking that you have to play a job to understand it? Ridiculous. Dread Spikes isn't even particularly interesting for PUP, the job favors master damage moreso than BST or SMN and its pets aren't as sturdy. Absorb-Attri offers situational boosts to the pet but it's only part of the job's output, not the whole... and it's my understanding that you have to use a specific combination of automaton parts (Spiritreaver/Harlequin) to even gain access to the spells, which imposes its own limitations. DRK wasn't even the first one to get such a spell anyway, BLU has had Osmosis for over a year now and Voracious Trunk for years before that... you didn't see BLUs QQing about Absorb-Attri, get over yourself.

False information again on pups casting dreadspikes, you only need to have the blm head on thats it.

[Kaizersan]

Actually unless you use a PDT setup it wont live long enough to use dread spikes since it needs to be a mage frame and it has to be on the top of the hate list which means the master can not attack it making its uses outside of abyssea pretty low. Just in case you didn't know a mage body is also needed not just the head the head only sets the spells it can cast the body holds the mp which the valoredge body and sharpshot body have no mp.

[Mizuharu]

You do realize that Dread Spikes is cast on the Automaton itself... Yeah? Save for Repairs/Drain I, it's the only way an Automaton can "cure" itself. The only spells that are casted that are originally self-target only are Stoneskin and Phalanx. Same goes for Absorb - Attribute; that the automaton casts it and it gains a status effect onto itself.

What are you talking about, none of those are the jobs best spells, and those are not top tier job defining spells either, your comparisons are bogus. Why are you even in the drk forums, you offer nothing are far as i'm concerned your just an ant on the wall clamouring for attention, second of all you dont even play drk so how can you offer constructive criticism...wait I know...you cant!

They are something that made the job unique though. And please stop pulling the "YOU DON'T HAVE THIS JOB LEVELED!!!!one!1" card. People can have alternate accounts. The one shown on here/ffxiah.com doesn't mean it's their only account. And now a days, with all the info on wikipedia and the test server, people can easily understand a job they havn't leveled.

It's not like PUP is suddenly getting access to every single spell a DRK has. The BLM frame can only cast
Elemental Nukes T1-5
Aspir I/II
Drain
Absorb - Attribute
Absorb - INT
Dread Spikes
Bio I/II
Poison I/II
Slow/Paralyze/Silence

And the DRK spells it does have access to are only on BLM frame; not like we're going to have a WHM casting Dread Spikes on us. It's going to cast Dread Spikes only if it is at the top of the hate list. I really see nothing wrong with that...

BECAUSE UR A PUP!

Quite. Also.

Why are you QQing over that.... automatons are an amalgamation of all jobs. I definitely don't see PUP replacing DRK any time soon.

I'm in your game, stealing yer ally spot.

[Orenwald]

QQ is a crying face, so QQing means crying lol

[SpankWustler]

You shouldn't be so upset.

By the time the new spells and AI changes are "properly adjusted" and implemented on normal servers, I'm sure that Dread-Spikes and Absorb-Attri will share a recast with something far better for a puppet to cast and Puppetmasters everywhere will lament that their puppets have such spells at all.

[Mizuharu]

You shouldn't be so upset.

By the time the new spells and AI changes are "properly adjusted" and implemented on normal servers, I'm sure that Dread-Spikes and Absorb-Attri will share a recast with something far better for a puppet to cast and Puppetmasters everywhere will lament that their puppets have such spells at all.

Someone didn't read the test server findings~ All spells share a "recast" between what the spell type is (more or less.)

[SpankWustler]

Someone didn't read the test server findings~ All spells share a "recast" between what the spell type is (more or less.)

That's where the "'properly adjusted' and implemented on normal servers" part comes in. It's best not to underestimate the development team's ability to make once-functional automatons into drooling heaps of tea kettles, unwashed turbans, and twenty-first chromosomes.

Also, I'm more or less joking.

[Orenwald]

That's where the "'properly adjusted' and implemented on normal servers" part comes in. It's best not to underestimate the development team's ability to make once-functional automatons into drooling heaps of tea kettles, unwashed turbans, and twenty-first chromosomes.

Also, I'm more or less joking.

Dude... Don't tempt them. The devs are listening