BALLISTA TOURNAMENT

[Leonlionheart]

no ones forcing you to do pvp. If you don't want to invest in the gil and -1 invintorys for pvp gear then don't do it. no one is forcing you to.

What if I do want to do it, don't care about the gil investment, but don't have 8 inventory slots to fill with resist gears?

Also, it's not like any of these gears are available often, if ever, on the AH or at NPCs. Let alone mats to make them.

[Darkwizardzin]

What if I do want to do it, don't care about the gil investment, but don't have 8 inventory slots to fill with resist gears?

Also, it's not like any of these gears are available often, if ever, on the AH or at NPCs. Let alone mats to make them.

....well all I'm saying is the rules for a pvp setup shouldn't be set based on "a person's lack of inventory".

Also you can always farm the mats and find crafters... it's not an impossible problem to overcome.

[Sesh]

The amount of strategy that needs to be applied in a typical 1v1 fight is minimal.

I fight many jobs and tailor my strategies appropriately. It's not possible for every job to come out consistently on top against every other job, unless the opponent is purposely not giving his best.

The game is not balanced for 1v1. It's balanced for team play.

1v1 does not accurately gauge a person's knowledge of their job or their ability to use the job's functions to their fullest. In a team fight, many of the jobs you are 1v1ing would not be doing what they would be doing in a 1v1, and yet they are in the end just as if not more effective overall. Seems to me you might be unable to coordnate a party to achieve the greatest effect in a team fight, which is a totally different and infinitely more interesting beast, no matter how you perform in 1v1.

I agree with this. A 1v1 battle doesn't determine ones "skill" on a job it really only shows their level of commitment to PvP. If you're a casual to once every 6 month PvPer, and you fight someone who tries their best to pvp every single day obviously the person who does it every single day is going to win. Why? Practice, macros, pvp gear, and overall preparedness.

Winning a fight in pvp against players that haven't taken the time to make macros without gear swaps, or get resistance gear or what have you is not an accomplishment, nor does it say anything about that players ability to use that job for the 99% of the content in the game that isn't PvP. At most, all that can be said is when it comes to 1v1 pvp 99.9% of the time the least lazy player wins which for some I guess makes them feel special.

As for ballista that isn't 1v1 based, who here used to ballista 7 years ago? Remember when agas didn't take shadows? Or when kraken club rngs we're wreaking havoc on everyone because they could sidewinder for full dmg 2 yalms away from you. Or those damn galka warriors and mnks>.> atleast for me, I can't remember his name, but I had one I especially loathed in particular. Group ballista brings such a different dynamic to light over 1v1, because it's about the actual game of ballista or brenner rather than epeen.

[Alhanelem]

Let's be honest, if SE was to do nothing but update ballista for the next year, do you not think that Sleep, break, -ga versions, bind, gravity, and the like wouldn't be gimped to hell?

Sleep and debuffs in general are already nerfed compared to PvE. There are caps on duration and you build resistance if hit with the same effect multiple times. (I'd argue the sleep duration limit should be lowered further though- sleep II basically eliminates you from the entire duration of some team fights unless you're poisoned)

Anyway- For me, it's the actual game of ballista that is fun. I like to have an objective to go with the combat. Brenner would have been a lot better if it was just flat out CTF without having to beat up the torch things.

[Creelo]

I will do my best

May the odds be ever in your favor!

The Hunger Games. @____________________________@

[Leonlionheart]

Sleep and debuffs in general are already nerfed compared to PvE. There are caps on duration and you build resistance if hit with the same effect multiple times. (I'd argue the sleep duration limit should be lowered further though- sleep II basically eliminates you from the entire duration of some team fights unless you're poisoned)

Anyway- For me, it's the actual game of ballista that is fun. I like to have an objective to go with the combat. Brenner would have been a lot better if it was just flat out CTF without having to beat up the torch things.

I agree with you for once, ballista beats the crap out of 1v1 in terms of how enjoyable it is. Balance is much more apparent, though still not close to really balanced. Team fights are always so much fun.

[Urteil]

Anyone who doesn't say 1v1 doesn't involve skill has never battled a Red Mage.

The materials aren't available, they are easy to get the hardest one probably being Flawless Ribbon - Derp Limbus.

Since you don't want to put i the effort to be the best, leave being the best to the people who can afford inventory slots etc. and kindly sit down.

Hilarious cop outs, are cop outs.



But this doesn't take away from Team play being great too, I wish team play would come back in full swing.

[Urteil]

Winning a fight in pvp against players that haven't taken the time to make macros without gear swaps, or get resistance gear or what have you is not an accomplishment, nor does it say anything about that players ability to use that job for the 99% of the content in the game that isn't PvP. At most, all that can be said is when it comes to 1v1 pvp 99.9% of the time the least lazy player wins which for some I guess makes them feel special.

Yea winning a fight against retards isn't an accomplishment.

Why was this idiot PvPing in the first place?

You mean the least lazy player would have the tools to be good?

[Leonlionheart]

Yea winning a fight against retards isn't an accomplishment.

Why was this idiot PvPing in the first place?

You mean the least lazy player would have the tools to be good?

Too bad for you he's right

[Urteil]

He's right that lazy people who are stupid enough to think that without getting gear for something they can be good, are shit? When that gear on the average is marginally easier?

Yea he is right.

Yea. Why are people who don't want to procure the gear even competing.

You don't not get PvE gear then go PvE.


These copouts are hilarious. But yes he is right. Lazy people fail at everything.