Pupdate 10-28-2011

[Dfoley]

Pet Innate Physical Damage Taken -% & Armor Plate I/II TEST:

Innate: Stormwaker Frame: 6.8% | Harlequin Frame: 13% | Valoredge/Sharpshot: 19.2%

Armor Plate I: 0 = 4.6% (5%) | 1 = 6.6% (7%)| 2 = 9.8% (10%) | 3 = 14.8% (15%) (Rounded Numbers in Parenthesis)

Armor Plate II: 0 = 9.8% (10%) | 1 = 14.8% (15%) | 2 = 19.8% (20%) | 3 = 25% (25%)

Theoretical Calculations for Valoredge frame: MAX gear PDT- = 22%, Innate PDT = 19.2%, Armor Plate I & II w/ 3 Earth Maneuvers = 39.8% (40%)

MAX PDT%-: 82%

Those are the same numbers I came up with as well. (see first post)
The hawt part is the 6.8 for the mage frame. That means we got stout servant 2 (added to main page) some time between 90 and 95.

It should be 6.8 + 12 % for VE so 18.8 ish (which is pretty much the 19.2 you reported)


Depending on how gear stacks with attachments, I know the gear cap on pets it -50% pdt however if its like summoners you add he innate to that cap so VE should be 19 +50 as the cap.

Should be easy enough to check. VE + 3 earth manuevers = 58 (should cap at 50 if its all considered gear)

If the cap is 70 then you would need the anwing/magian claws to cap.


Good stuff guys keep it coming and I will update the main post as often as I can


Edit: Yes I test on Gilmour (my mule) feel free to send me tells (off to test new magic mortor formula and flame holder on bunnies!)

[Devnull]

Has anyone got to test if a cure is started to cast on you, is it cancelled when a mob dies? I know this sorta irritated me the few times it happened.

[Kaizersan]

yes it still stops casting if the mob dies

[Theytak]

from testing with my stormwaker in sky, vs pots, I'm fairly confident they totally fucked up casting priority. I only ever got caroline to open with silence once, and that was with no maneuvers active. I also got poison II and slow as openers with no maneuvers, and I never once got silence with a wind maneuver, only slow. The only static thing was addle, which was always last. stormwaker cycled randomly through all of the other enfeebles between nukes, and so did soulsoother, and I couldn't get any priority maneuvers to work 100% of the time. Occasionally they'd work, occasionally they didn't.

This all held true both with and without scanner/tactical/anything else.

[Dfoley]

I have been able to get different enfeebles to cast first with soul soother, maybe its just the rdm helm

[xbobx]

too bad, I can see rdm helm really being a great puppet to solo with, help speed up kills etc.

[Siviard]

I'm on the Test Server now, but I see a bunch of unfamiliar names. Are you all using your mains, or using mules?

I know I saw Shinron on the test server b/c I know his main on Fenrir. But how about everyone else?

[Theytak]

since stormwaker head is the only one to get stoneskin and phalanx, i wish they had lower priority for elemental magic. the stoneskin effect would be excellent for soloing with ninja sub, but i wouldn't want my puppet wasting all her MP on nukes... or please just give soulsoother stoneskin. <3 i don't see the problem with it since real whms have afflatus solace.

Aside from wasting mp, if you have any MAB attachments fit it'll hurt your hate control too. The nice thing about soulsoother is that no matter how much it cure bombs you, it hardly ever pulls hate, but once you get rolling with stormwaker, if you engage will all your buffs up the first thing it'll do is THUNDARFOARDURPHURP.

Aso for the delay issue with stormwaker frame, I'll go try valoredge since it's got a different delay and see if that's any better. I honestly don't know where/when the 400 delay for harle/stormwaker/sharpshot was figured out, but it was forever ago, so that it might not be totally accurate isn't to surprising (and we can test this on the live servers, which will be a lot more accurate given various limitations of the test server)

I'm on the Test Server now, but I see a bunch of unfamiliar names. Are you all using your mains, or using mules?

I know I saw Shinron on the test server b/c I know his main on Fenrir. But how about everyone else?

Right click their forum name, view profile, then look at their characters. That'll tell you which character has 95 pup unless they have a bajillion jobs at 95 (it only shows 3, iirc). For the record, I'm still Theytak on the test server. xbobx is shuffles, and I think dfoley is gilmour (sp?). If anyone else uses a different name on the test server compared to the forums, they'll have to speak up.

edit: wtf happened to the tp formulas on wiki? when the hell did someone change their format and remove all sorts of random shit that as far as my math said, was still correct?

[Psion]

The cap for pets PDT is 87.5% last I checked, as opposed to players capping at 50%.

[Dfoley]

Okay i have some data for some math people

Inhibitor: was 5/10/15/20 store tp
Tested using soulsoother (wiki says 400 delay)

0 attachments
0 10 20 30 40 51 61 71 81 91 102
Confirms 400 delay

inhibitor 0 fire maneuvers
0 10 21 32 42 53 64 74 85 96 107
+4 store tp would be
10.7 21.4 32.1 42.8 53.5 64.2 74.9 85.6 96.3 107
Okay, so 0 maneuvers = is 4 store tp (says it used to be 5, so -1???)

inhibitor 1 fire maneuver
0 11 23 35 46 58 70
+14 store tp would be
0 11.7 23.4 35.1 46.8 58.5 70.2
Okay, so 1 fire maneuver = +14 (was +10, so +4 from what it would be)

inhibitor 2 fire maneuvers
0 12 25 38 50 63 76 88 101
+24 stp
0 12.7 25.4 38.1 50.8 63.5 76.2 88.9 101.6
So 2 fire maneuvers is +24 store tp (was 15, so +9)

inhibitor 3 fire maneuvers
0 14 28 42 56 71 85 99
+38 store tp
0 14.2 28.4 42.6 56.8 71 85.2 99.4

I am going to assume
1) Delay is 400 (screw you wiki n your bad formulas)
2) it is 4/14/24/38 store tp