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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    My automation is gender neutral. that is what attachments are for, to help with that issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    My automation is gender neutral. that is what attachments are for, to help with that issue.
    This thread is now about turning various attachments into innuendos, double entendres, or straight up implications.

    Before caroline, my automaton was Joe. Joe's tension springs were always tense, and never springy, but boy did they have some reach to them. Also the shock absorber is totally the automaton's butt.
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    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    That's what I'm talking about, really, as such with my example above (a man who identifies as female). I know many transsexuals and transgender people, and they are who they are. It's what's in the brain that counts, the wiring of a person's personality and mind.

    I believe there are many different ways this can come around, depending on the brain itself and the environment around it. My brothers were raised the exact same way as me, but why did I turn out differently? That was on me, not my environment. Whatever made my brain say "NO, you be like this!" is how it went, I guess. xD
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    And.. lol, you guys are terrific!
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    I'm going to give you an example. Someone who isn't transgender saying that gender is a purely learned thing is like a person who was born deaf trying to tell a musician what music sounds like.

    I seriously want to tear apart everything you just said, but because this is a great day for pup, I'm going to let it slide, and remind you that no matter how much you study, I've been living the hell of my biological gender identity and my physiological sex being different since my earliest memories, when I was three and a half. I think I know a good bit about what I'm talking about. ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Should just be changed to "it", i guess. Dora parries the attack with its weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Should just be changed to "it", i guess. Dora parries the attack with Boots.
    I can't help but picture this every time I read "Dora". If you get the joke, you know it'd be funny to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Re: Theytak and Annahya

    Gender's definition, as Annahya is describing it, is correct - it's the social construct that defines certain roles and what people associate with either sex or that either sex is predisposed to do given societal direction.

    Gender Identity, especially in cases of Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Dysphoria, on the other hand, does not always refer to one's relation to gender roles as they are mentioned above but can instead relate to one's biological sex. For instance, if a person is born biologically male and identifies with masculine gender roles but STILL feels an inherent wrongness in his biological sex, the term used is "Gender" Identity Disorder or "Gender" Dysphoria, when the disorder is actually a problem with/related to his sex.

    It sounds like that is where the confusion is coming from. It'd probably make more sense if Gender Identity only referred to a person's relationship with gender roles, and a term like "Sex Identity" were used to describe a person's relationship to biological sex.
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    Last edited by Cyranda; 11-01-2011 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    Re: Theytak and Annahya

    Gender's definition, as Annahya is describing it, is correct - it's the social construct that defines certain roles and what people associate with either sex or that either sex is predisposed to do given societal direction.

    Gender Identity, especially in cases of Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Dysphoria, on the other hand, does not always refer to one's relation to gender roles as they are mentioned above but can instead relate to one's biological sex. For instance, if a person is born biologically male and identifies with masculine gender roles but STILL feels an inherent wrongness in his biological sex, the term used is "Gender" Identity Disorder or "Gender" Dysphoria, when the disorder is actually a problem with/related to his sex.

    It sounds like that is where the confusion is coming from. It'd probably make more sense if Gender Identity only referred to a person's relationship with gender roles, and a term like "Sex Identity" were used to describe a person's relationship to biological sex.
    Agreed. I'm working on my master's in counseling, but I read a lot into LGBT issues.

    Gender is used incorrectly by a hell of a lot of people.

    I think the confusion is definitely in the term 'gender identity'.

    I would say that gender is a social construct.
    Gender identity, and biological sex are not.

    Gender identity is moreso your relationship to your self perception of your sex, and not your gender.
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    This thread is not what I thought it was going to be. Though I guess this is a family friendly forum.
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