No taxation without representation.

[Soranika]

Are you insane? If there's anything I don't miss at all, it's Batallia Mall (where it was on Shiva). Why anyone should have to leave town to shop bazaars is beyond me.

When the taxes were abolished and everyone moved inside, I thought that was the best thing ever.

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ALL THEY HAVE TO DO: Put abyssea NPCs in aht urghan. They're revamping other ToAU content anyway, and while they seem afraid of the idea, it was a lot better when 300 people were in a big area like whitegate than the same number in the fishbowl that is port jeuno. And as an added bonus, add field manuals outside town so you can use tabs to warp to your home nation.

For the same reason I believe people do it on private RO servers, to keep the normal meet up towns from becoming over crowded, making it less frustration of lag.

I'd see every one open up afk bazaar mules in one spot over cluttering towns and keeping other people from loading on the screen, causing lag or others to downright crash.

@Seriha
Two weeks ago was my first time ever fighting Kirin. Dropped Raise III. Just because something doesn't drop on your first go or when you want it doesn't mean it won't drop at all. Yeah. WoE is another beast on it's own, but you have people that still do old endgame content like Sky. Kirin is a huge push over now for lowmaning. As for BCNMs.... it does turn into a "make friends" situation. I have no clue wy BCNMs aren't popular anymore....

[Greatguardian]

I AM THE 99%!!!

OCCUPY PORT JEUNO!!

Comparing sociopolitical movements to a video game class discrepancy is nothing short of demeaning. Your humor is lost here, and I hope you feel bad.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, prevents a video game player from picking up a couple like-minded people and doing the BCNMs and HKCNMs that drop every single one of the scrolls mentioned earlier. Nothing, absolutely nothing, prevents people from farming Cruor or joining Cruor farm parties for insane amounts of gil. FFXI is a game whose economic ladder is extremely easy to climb; comparing that to a national economy in which the vast majority of people are more likely to fall further down the ladder than climb it is positively disgusting.

I don't particularly give a flying frack what posters on here think of the Occupy movements. This isn't a political forum. But comparing the grievances of working Americans with the shallow groaning of video game players who are quite literally too lazy to leave port jeuno is everything that's wrong with the popular portrayal of the movement today.

[Kaisha]

I say NO. Taxes should be taken out of this game completely, unless it's what players want. Taxes do not create harmony, especially when the taxed money goes into a black hole, and not to any cause at all.

Taxes create a semi-stable economy.

If they got rid of taxes, they'd have to create other means of taking your gil away from the game other than NPC consumables. I'm surprised SE hasn't nerfed the sell value of all Abyssea-related stuff yet given the millions people are bringing into the economy by burning cruor of chocobo blinkers and pink gear.

[Greatguardian]

Taxes create a semi-stable economy.

If they got rid of taxes, they'd have to create other means of taking your gil away from the game other than NPC consumables. I'm surprised SE hasn't nerfed the sell value of all Abyssea-related stuff yet given the millions people are bringing into the economy by burning cruor of chocobo blinkers and pink gear.

The way I see it is that the people this would hurt the most are the casuals who have no other form of generating gil. This won't hurt any of the people with millions of gil laying around, as they are generally capable of generating income in plenty of other ways if they want to.

Atmacites and VoidDust were a decent attempt at adding gilsinks to high level players, but there really just isn't much for people to buy at the moment. Anything worth buying/selling on the AH at high prices is generally done between high-level players anyways so the money isn't going anywhere.

[Soranika]

You make it sound like they're gonna be so greatly affected... last I remember, there's still 4 other parts of Jeuno. Not just the port.

[Greatguardian]

You make it sound like they're gonna be so greatly affected... last I remember, there's still 4 other parts of Jeuno. Not just the port.

nuh uhhhhhhhhhhhh. There are 3 other parts of Jeuno :3

[Soranika]

Three! Three. lol.

Also though, to people suggesting putting abyssea maw warps and stuff in Whitegate... there's STILL tax there too.

[Greatguardian]

People have been idling in Port Jeuno since 2003. Whitegate was only a temporary stopgap. Some of us oldbies are just set in our ways.

[Soranika]

I thought that use to be lower jeuno. I remember port jeuno being pretty empty on bismarck before abyssea came out.

[Greatguardian]

Depends on the era and the server. A lot of port migrated to Lower Jeuno around 2004-2005~ because of the closer AH, and because it became the Teleport central on my server. Ru'Lude was the hangout for HNM players on most servers, since it was so fancy. I'd love to idle there now, but the MH elevator just annoys the crap out of me, ha.