Why Cant Final fantasy 11 get the same treatment?

[llello]

Lol says the person who stated that mmo's run on drama and bs politics.

[Atomic_Skull]

Lol says the person who stated that mmo's run on drama and bs politics.

I'm not sure I understand you, please explain this further.

[llello]

The point is why start drama and post stupid stuff in response to me when I haven't said anything negative to you. It detracts from the discussion.

In fact , if you read the last part of my post I actually agree an upgrade would be nice. And additional features like an improved inventory system would be welcome. I just think its foolish of people to expect SE to throw everything FFXIV related in the incinerator and allocate the personnel and funds to FFXI. Like other people have posted if that were to ever happen the staff and funds would go to a new project.

[Molech]

FFXIV is only getting the attention its getting because the game was so bad that it damaged the entire brand. Japanese people are very prideful people, there is no way they were going to just let their flagship title go down in flames just to appease FFXI players by shifting more resources to an almost 10 year old game from when the Japanese service started which is basically what you're asking them to do.

FFXIV is and was always going to be the next MMO, you can't look at SE's decisions any differently because you have 8 years invested in this game.

People are just QQ'ing that they will eventually have to accept that this game is old and the bare minimum is being done to keep people playing it.

[katoplepa]

It's not about quitting due to graphics. It's about potentially adding a new playerbase with an updated graphics engine.

Most of us who play now don't care about the graphics because we've been playing the game since the graphics were relatively good for the time, and we have a combination of nostalgia goggles and a personal investment in the game. Neither of these mean anything to people who may potentially pick up the game on steam or at best buy.

I'm not sure about the fact "new graphics = new players"
because of FFXIV is very good at graphics, but even the oldest even the newest players, don't want to play it and sure don't want to pay for it, so the graphics can't help totally, graphics can help at the start, when you see screenshot or video before the launch of the game, but when you start to play it, graphics go down in front of gameplay.

think about a FFXI with HQ graphics : sure, it's cool! the actual players will be very happy and maybe someone who quitted will reactivate, but if the contents are still the same, the cool sensations will finish within a couple of months.

so, my opinion is : more and new contents (not only battlefields, but new areas and so on) are more important then graphics and anyway an update in the graphics can't come without new contents.

[Zagen]

I'm not sure about the fact "new graphics = new players"
because of FFXIV is very good at graphics, but even the oldest even the newest players, don't want to play it and sure don't want to pay for it, so the graphics can't help totally, graphics can help at the start, when you see screenshot or video before the launch of the game, but when you start to play it, graphics go down in front of gameplay.

Better graphics has always brought in new players if this wasn't the case the push for increasing graphical potential in video games over the past 10 years wouldn't have been so strong. Though it doesn't keep those players if the game play isn't there to back up the pretty looks.

[Vold]

FFXIV is only getting the attention its getting because the game was so bad that it damaged the entire brand. Japanese people are very prideful people, there is no way they were going to just let their flagship title go down in flames just to appease FFXI players by shifting more resources to an almost 10 year old game from when the Japanese service started which is basically what you're asking them to do.

FFXIV is and was always going to be the next MMO, you can't look at SE's decisions any differently because you have 8 years invested in this game.

People are just QQ'ing that they will eventually have to accept that this game is old and the bare minimum is being done to keep people playing it.

Meme: It's okay to continue to pay 12.95+ a month on a MMO and not get the expected service for your dollars. Just say that it's old and the dollars are for keeping the servers up so you can sleep better at night and don't ask any questions. K, got it. Glad we get these memes. We wouldn't know wtf was going on, otherwise.

[Runespider]

All I want from my FFXI is more money spent on good content, graphics updates although very nice would not alone keep me playing. I had a very pretty FFXIV on my pc for a long time and logged on twice at most.

Logging into FFXI and having nothing to do is the game killer (adding cheap shallow content with horrible drop rates is not doing it), add more staff, increase the games budget, release more expansions/addons and keep us paying you for many years to come.

[Miiyo]

Everything that everyone is complaining about for ffxi... new areas, new content, updated graphics... it's all right there in FFXIV 2.0. They're adding jobs, adding male kitties and female tanks. It'll officially be the next FFXI. Really, it won't be anything revolutionary because you level, you quest, you kill bosses. It's the formula for mmo's. What makes a good mmo is how you have to go about doing these tasks that you'll constantly repeat. No, we can't just do that to ffxi because the game is old and coded so much differently coded. All FFXI can do is add more zones, and add more nm's. It's very limited on it's growth without having to completely disregard all current content. FFXI would have to become FFXI.2. A new game. Aka, FFXIV. So there's an extra V on the end of the name. Get over it.

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced that the fail of 14 (and 13 for that matter) wasn't planned. I just see a really good marketing scheme by gaining immense popularity by being such a renown company and blowing these games, and then the sudden change of heart in customer service and communication, and what you would gain by creating an epic fail and turning into a glorious game. Everyone didn't know FFXIV or FFXIII. Everyone does now because of all the horrible press. People are watching SE right now. Everything they release is being paid attention to. Especially their most popular series. Bad news always travels faster than good news. So now that these games have their fame, for good or bad, what happens when they make it great? Risky, and some definitely won't give it another try, but I only see them gaining from this.

[cidbahamut]

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced that the fail of 14 (and 13 for that matter) wasn't planned. I just see a really good marketing scheme by gaining immense popularity by being such a renown company and blowing these games, and then the sudden change of heart in customer service and communication, and what you would gain by creating an epic fail and turning into a glorious game. Everyone didn't know FFXIV or FFXIII. Everyone does now because of all the horrible press. People are watching SE right now. Everything they release is being paid attention to. Especially their most popular series. Bad news always travels faster than good news. So now that these games have their fame, for good or bad, what happens when they make it great? Risky, and some definitely won't give it another try, but I only see them gaining from this.

I'm sorry but this is absolutely batshit fucking insane.

No one intentionally sabotages a project that has had millions put into just so they can try to pull some extra press by making a miraculous comeback.