Why Cant Final fantasy 11 get the same treatment?

[Sesh]

Everyone didn't know FFXIV or FFXIII. Everyone does now because of all the horrible press.

Sorry but the only people that know about 14 are people that were already playing XI, and it will probably stay that way for the next few years. 9/10 gamers have a vague clue about FFXI and even less of a % know or care about anything FFXIV related.

[TybudX]

Japanese people are very prideful people, there is no way they were going to just let their flagship title go down in flames just to appease FFXI players by shifting more resources to an almost 10 year old game from when the Japanese service started which is basically what you're asking them to do.

The problem with this situation is that SE has never had a clue as to why one title was successful while others were absolute shit, and they have such a huge fan base that going off of sales alone is a terrible indicator as to which titles were actually good. Right now they are propping up a terrible game with continued sales from a relatively successful game. There is ironing there if you look hard enough.

Also, SE can take their pride and shove it up their asses. They have been trying for years to figure out what the "American" consumers want in a game. They came up with flashy graphics and what amounts to playable books. We used to get Tactics, Chrono Trigger, FFVI, Vagrant Story. Now we get FFX and XIII. We went from well thought out battle systems with great story lines to the same rehashed neo-cyber punk emo BS, turn the page and play paper - rock - scissors, watch the game play itself. Really? There's more ironing there.

I couldn't care less about a graphical upgrade to FFXI, I just wish that the people in charge of the flow of money at SE could grow a set of eyes on the back of their necks. At least then they would be able to see what's going on while their heads are planted firmly up their own asses.

[Helel]

People keep posting that because FF14 is "new" it's more attractive than FFXI (for SE). This is just plain wrong. Anyone who's played other MMOs will tell you that the majority of the subscribers are the ones who signed up from day one. People don't just randomly decide to try out new MMOs on a whim (most don't). Many people, including myself, enjoy the rush to the highest level, to the best gear, etc. but that's all far past now. FFXIV is actually very old for the MMO market, and trying to revive it is ridiculous. It ALWAYS fails, every, single, time. SE is just wasting their time.

Here are some examples:

Asheron's Call 2: also similar to the original like FFXIV. They eventually shut down the servers because of a crappy launch.
Everquest 2: still alive, but numbers are around FFXIV I would guess. I heard they did attempt to revamp this game quite a bit, but still it's far behind XI.

I played both of those games, and I've personally experienced how a MMO dies. FFXIV is clearly on that track. SE should just let it linger in existence until it fades away--like it's going to do anyway.

[Xellith]

2.0 will have to be something epic in order to make FFXIV survive. It's got all the subscribers it's going to get until this fabled 2.0 which will be around in 1-2 years... Even then I honestly don't know if re-marketing it is gonna do the trick. The damage has been done.

[CapriciousOne]

The potential ROI for 14 is higher than it is for 11 because of 11's age.

Keyword meaning not guaranteed. Most of the money being used to do all this revamping is coming for previous Final Fantasy games including Final Fantasy XI.

[CapriciousOne]

Except it doesn't when that game is still making profits without that additional maintenance.

True but they are only doing that because they know there is no decent alternative MMO for the PS2/PS3 and are taking advantage of it. It's called a monopoly. When a Rival MMO not made them comes into the marketplace then they will act like they care.

[Luso]

Actually, Free Realms and DC Universe Online are doing decently on the PS3; both also have PC counterparts, but they are available on the PS3, too, much like XIV will be. Also, since both are using a F2P model, I imagine that the amount of players as well as micro-transactions will only increase as time moves on.

[Zagen]

Actually, Free Realms and DC Universe Online are doing decently on the PS3; both also have PC counterparts, but they are available on the PS3, too, much like XIV will be. Also, since both are using a F2P model, I imagine that the amount of players as well as micro-transactions will only increase as time moves on.

Do you know if either of them will support cross platform playing? Looking this up for DC Universe atm but maybe you'll respond before I find it.

Edit: Just found it in the FAQ console and PC can't play together.

[Olor]

Making a successfull mmo is not something you can just do, the vast majority fail...so if you have a successfull one (yes even if it's 8+ years old) you keep it running the best you can for as long as you can.
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Yeah, if people can continue to pump out expansions for Everquest 2 and WoW, which are in the same generation as XI, there really isn't much of an excuse to abandon XI players/let the game languish

[Olor]

When you're looking at 8 years of content that you'd be catching up to compared to 1-2 years the 8 years is very daunting and discouraging. If you don't see it that way, that's cool but you're in the minority.

Yeah... I guess that is why WoW never gets any new subs