New Roadmap and FFXI's direction

[Krashport]

around the corner coming plus each XIV patch is becoming more epic than the last.

I don't think FFXIV going to be that epic seeing PS3 is almost an outdated console, I give FFXIV 1 year after the PS3 release then watch Sony come out w/ PS4 leaving the PC players in the same shadow where us FFXI PC players are.

[Leonlionheart]

I don't think FFXIV going to be that epic seeing PS3 is almost an outdated console, I give FFXIV 1 year after the PS3 release then watch Sony come out w/ PS4 leaving the PC players in the same shadow where us FFXI PC players are.

considering PS3 has nearly 0 limiting factors (why game developers actually perfer it over 360), I doubt it

[Krashport]

considering PS3 has nearly 0 limiting factors (why game developers actually perfer it over 360), I doubt it

Everything ages over time but you can always update/upgrade a PC; PCs can have processors with 6 cores now, Video cards on PCs will always over power the consoles.. The list goes on. By saying that the PS3 has 0 limiting factors its wrong it has one from the start and its a big one, main limiting factors "Its a console".

Edit: I'm not a console hater, I just like to up my resources! ^^b

[Atomic_Skull]

considering PS3 has nearly 0 limiting factors (why game developers actually perfer it over 360), I doubt it

This is a lie. The PS3 is a pain in the ass to program for. You have to split your rendering code between the SPE's in the cell processor and the GPU (technically speaking the PS3's GPU is less powerful than the 360's, but the Cell processor's SPE's can make that up). The Cell processor itself is horrible to program for, the SPE's have extremely tiny buffers and the timing in your code has to be perfect or everything bottlenecks.

The PS3 might be somewhat more powerful overall than the 360, but the 360 is much, much easier to program. (and the 360 isn't that much less powerful, the main reason most 360 games are 720p is because it's GPU renders the screen to framebuffer RAM on the GPU which isn't large enough to hold the entire screen so it has to render the screen in tiles. In theory this is faster than rendering the screen to external GDDR but at 1080p there are so many tiles that collating them starts to negate the speed advantage from internal rendering)

[Leonlionheart]

difficulty to program isn't a limiting factor

[Nightfyre]

Time and money certainly are.

[Krashport]

difficulty to program isn't a limiting factor

How so or is that just your opinion, and are you just assuming?

[Leonlionheart]

Time and money certainly are.

this

I'm just nit picking around the subject

[Babekeke]

Unless the PS4 uses a completely different system and therefore can't play PS3 games, there shouldn't be an issue anyway. What LLH referred to as '0 limiting factors' are things like: max inv slots, max macro lines, max # of maps and all the other good stuff that the PS2 is limited to.
As long as the game still works on PS3 in 10 years time without being limited by factors such as these, everything can keep moving forward. If the graphics become too powerful or something so it becomes slow/juddery this shouldn't stop new content, just make SE recommend upgrading to a PS4

[Atomic_Skull]

unless the PS4 uses a completely different system and therefore can't play PS3 games

They might use a newer Cell processor in the PS4. Sony was one of the major partners in it's development and without the PS3 the Cell would have been a massive failure. In the high end computing market GPGPU and custom ASICS do the jobs it was intended for better and for less money.