New Roadmap and FFXI's direction

[Runespider]

Unfortunately, the Japanese are a proud people. They've said it won't happen, so to then introduce it would be to go back on their word, which would probably shame them and their family, or something.

I can't see it ever happening, much to my disappointment.

Only likely thing that might come out of this, is with enough people shouting for it to happen, the new 'dungeon crawler' event might actually implement this system. I do personally like the 'personal treasure chest' option, as it means that noone can ninja lot you or anything, but the lack of an option to add your loot to spoils if you don't want/already have it is just ridiculous.

It's not that, just that the current system is a huge time sink on cheaply made content (pretty much like kings). The longer we waste doing voidwatch over and over and over and over the less they have to worry about pumping out new content.

[Babekeke]

It's not that, just that the current system is a huge time sink on cheaply made content (pretty much like kings). The longer we waste doing voidwatch over and over and over and over the less they have to worry about pumping out new content.

The longer people waste doing voidwatch, the closer they become to quitting is all I can see from responses on here.

[Kagato]

Gasp! Another person leaving because getting an item is not easy anymore?

OH, THE HORROR!

[Durkan]

I was thinking about coming back to FFXI and giving it another shot, but after reading this thread and all the negativity about the future of FFXI, I'm not too sure now ._.

[xbobx]

I guess the people making smart ass comments about people leaving are too stupid to realize if the trend continues there will be no ffxi.
Then when it gets to that point they will complain about servers being shut down and wonder why.

[Feliciaa]

Funny thing is. If drops were super easy like some people want, way more people would leave because the content is not challenging enough and they got everything in a week.

Yes plate and gear drop rates suck. But the dev team has clearly stated newer tiers will have better drop rates.

Also,Just making it so items can go into treasure pool is not as simple as it sounds. If the design team does that, then players now have 18 chances to obtain said item on a single fight...

[Runespider]

Also,Just making it so items can go into treasure pool is not as simple as it sounds. If the design team does that, then players now have 18 chances to obtain said item on a single fight...

Have you done voidwatch? Even if they did that, it would still take quite a long time to cap on current coidwatch gear. Read this as "acceptable" amount of time.

[Alhanelem]

and the new guy in charge thinks 1500 iron plates is ok.

So? The old guy in charge thought 30000 alexandrite and ~18000 dynamis currency was OK.

I kinda think we were kidding ourselves if we thought it was going to stay "kill one NM 25-50 times." Apparently this is how they decided to balance the work level of the empyreans against the mythics and relics.

[Leonlionheart]

So? The old guy in charge thought 30000 alexandrite and ~18000 dynamis currency was OK.

I kinda think we were kidding ourselves if we thought it was going to stay "kill one NM 25-50 times." Apparently this is how they decided to balance the work level of the empyreans against the mythics and relics.

How is it even remotely balanced to relics?

You can get a relic95 for what, 150m now, straight buying it and spending a handful of days on the trials (Probably about the same amount of time on those trials as on the pre-trials for emps).

To completely buy yourself into lets say a Verethragna 95, it would cost between 175mil and 225mil, assumign 100k plates, and 500k KI popsets(Not rare on asura, specially for chloris popsets). You'd be lucky to find an abundance of 100k plates.

Mythics are still the worst at 300~600mil and 9months of work

[Alhanelem]

I wasn't directly comparing the economics of it, just saying that the situation is not drastically different. Here we are with another "collect an absurdly large number of objects" goal for a super weapon. I mean, who didn't see this coming?

Wouldn't it be fair to say, however, that the real reason for the current level of expense is the lack of popularity of the event from which you obtain these items, combined with the shiatty drop system? Even still, as you said, mythics are still worse.

(Side comment: I didn't pay one red gil for any of the dozens of Sednas and Kukulkans I killed for Hvergelmir; I'm in progress with Azdaja and haven't paid any gil for that either, only the cruor for my own brews- I also helped complete to verethreganas, and only small amounts of gil were spent on those (e.g. to buy some of the lesser NM pops off the AH))