What Puppetmasters really need!

[Horadrim]

The most annoying part of things like this is having to break up quotes into pieces...

I love being PUP and its my mainjob but it really has lot of flaws and needs fixes and buffs.

1. Puppetmaster needs to have 5 save spots,
Where he/she can save head, frame and attachments combos, these needs to be loadable throu a Macro.
Deactivateing and setting all manuall takes way to much time.

PUP isn't designed to have to dump Automaton types at random just like BST isn't meant to have to dump pets constantly -- it happens because they tend to go after mobs way more powerful than themselves but it was never truly intended. Meanwhile, this is excessive. The only instance when you don't have time to set up your automaton from scratch is when you're trying to quickly change to your healer to save your life when you were previously DD'ing, and that requires all of 2-3 attachments and takes less than 10 seconds with actual practice.

2. All frames need new weaponskills.
Good ones that is. And that not conflict with most used maneuvers for corresponding head/frame combos. WIND for ranger, ICE for BLM, EARTH for valoredge, and Light/ICE for BLM and WHM.

Again, excessive and unneeded. This serves no real purpose. Removal of maneuver dependency from WSs would be nice to improve the potency of those effected by ATK/R.ATK via Fire Maneuvers, but arguably most of the ones you'd use this one (Armor Piercer comes to mind) are solid within their own right without it.

3. Maneuvers:
Need to last longer , or even make them not expire at all except attachments consume them.
Also maneuver must not take time to perform they must be instand so they dont take away melle time.

This has been suggested on several occasions and represented in better ways than just "Do it, it hurts mah melees"

4.Valoredge:
Needs a big dammage buff , needs to be able to block with shield, needs to be able to use shildbash more often, needs more defense and magic defense. cannibal blade and bone crusher should do at least do 750 dmg .
Also a second valoredge frame without shield and a onehanded weapon maybe GA would be really nice.

Valoredge is a tank, he doesn't need to deal more damage. Again, you're not supposed to be able to solo giant mobs with him, he's an third-tier tank at best and due to his expendable nature he more than accomplishes this task outside of Abyssea, and inside of Abyssea accomplishes 10 times as much. If you intend to do damage, you need to be using Spiritreaver or RNG.

6. Soulsoother head: Y
ea the same old . Curing needs to be priorized over na spells if no water maneuver is up. Fix the AI or give us an attachments that does that.

If you have enough light maneuvers up he -does- prioritize cures when using Damage Gauge (which doesn't increase the cast rate of -nas)

5. Spiritreaver.
www these pesky drain and aspir cats if i whant it to nuke.
Dark maneuver = enfeeble/drain /aspir /absorb.
Ice maneuver = Nuke only easy as that

No. Learn to balance and control your maneuvers, then we'll talk.

7. Stormwaker:
Same as for WHM and BLM head . Ligh maneuver = priorize Cures, Ice = nukes dark/ water = enfeebles

Damage Gauge. Debuffing is part of a BLM's job, get over it -- or rather, to quote a GM: "Working as intended."

8. Harleqin :
I cant find a use for it . It would need a massive overhaul. More DMG more MP more HP faster casting more defense some unique abilitys .

His purpose is to be your intro automaton. He doesn't, and likely will never, have one beyond that. Even if they added some kind of new, advanced version of him you'd still likely have this frame/head in your inventory.

9. We need more Pet comands.
Deploy in melee range : automaton follows in melle range,
Deploy at max. Casting/RangedAtt. Range : Automton stays at max range
Deploy and hold. Engaging but stays in place
Retrive and hold. Retrive and automaton stays at his actuall place not moving to its master.

You need to learn to properly play the job before trying to dictate how it should be changed. The only reasonable request within this is for a cycle command that prompts a buff to be cast and maybe a stay command which stops attack rounds -- everything else is already well within PUP's programming and functionality.

10 Tactical switsh needs to be a 30 sec recast not 3 min.

11. Give us Evasion and H2H A skill

Thats the most important thing so far, theres still a lot work to do to make PUP what it should be,

Thats the most importand stuff so far. Theres still lot to do . like faster cast

PUP -is- what it is supposed to be. It has no more problems now than any other job has and is actually quite comparable to almost every other job in the game with regards to usefulness and potency when played and geared properly. You new scrubs are actually starting to annoy me.

We seriously need more control over what the automaton cast or do, the rest of pup is fine.

You HAVE control over what it does. If YOU as an individual don't, its because you don't know what you're doing. Other than a random buff or -Na coming out on occasion when you underestimate your current health percentages, then the automaton is almost completely predictable and rigid in its control (hell, even then it is completely simple to predict what he'll do when you have Slow, Poison, and Blind effect on you.). If you adopted a previously, expertly trained dog that performed given tasks rigidly and to the T within range of solidified, numerical classifications its not the dogs fault that you don't know that hand sign X means sit and hand sign Y means for him to come. Its not his fault that he does something you didn't want while you're giving the wrong commands -- and that's the reality of Puppetmaster. A lot of the time (not all, the AI is far from infallible), it's the player's fault ended up face first on the ground, not the auto's.

[Absinthe]

PUP isn't designed to have to dump Automaton types at random just like BST isn't meant to have to dump pets constantly -- it happens because they tend to go after mobs way more powerful than themselves but it was never truly intended. Meanwhile, this is excessive. The only instance when you don't have time to set up your automaton from scratch is when you're trying to quickly change to your healer to save your life when you were previously DD'ing, and that requires all of 2-3 attachments and takes less than 10 seconds with actual practice.

This part you are responding to here is actually all I was trying to poke the devs for. I am not trying to imply that we should be able to use automatons as if they were throw-away pets as may be the case for other pet jobs... I was simply implying that there should be a better way to manage the attachments. This is something which has been recognized by the devs previously, but they still haven't gotten around to addressing it. I want to make sure that it isn't forgotten. If you see the other posts I've revived (most of which are pretty darned old), you'll notice that there are other PUPs who might appreciate this functionality.

Would like to save attachment sets.

While we would like to do something for this, we would first need to perform a lot of work to revamp the user interface, so this will be difficult to accomplish right away. Sorry

Also, dude... chill out.

[Fiddler]

I don't understand the evasion part. Pup is 2nd under Thf on eva when the evasion bonus is added. Without gear or merits but eva bonus added thf stands at 484, pup 446, dnc 439, nin 417. Pup has its problems but i have never considered my eva a factor.

[Horadrim]

This part you are responding to here is actually all I was trying to poke the devs for. I am not trying to imply that we should be able to use automatons as if they were throw-away pets as may be the case for other pet jobs... I was simply implying that there should be a better way to manage the attachments. This is something which has been recognized by the devs previously, but they still haven't gotten around to addressing it. I want to make sure that it isn't forgotten. If you see the other posts I've revived (most of which are pretty darned old), you'll notice that there are other PUPs who might appreciate this functionality.



Also, dude... chill out.

I've been behind it as well, but his version of the suggestion is way excessive.

Meanwhile, I've never actually been upset or even heated while posting here. So I don't think "chill out" is an appropriate response.

My posts are verbose, its a problem of mine that stems from the fact I do a lot of writing (I'm a novelist in my free time), but I'm not even remotely sorry that it seems to bother random people on the internet. Frankly if I ever felt legitimately angry about anything here I would leave. I've done it before on forums for other games, I don't see why I wouldn't here. I'll let you know when I'm legitimately pissed off by something, though, since you seem interested.

EDIT:

Wasn't there an update to that comment saying they were actually working on it?