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  1. #31
    Player Bigboy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I'd honestly rather have more of the item produced. It's not like someone who can't use it yet can't save it for later.

    Think about it. if the overall chance of you personally getting the item is the same by either method (Unless you go with people who will let you have the drop no questions asked), wouldn't it be better to see more of that item go around and have it be less rare overall?

    Obviously I'd rather have both good drop rates and be able to choose who gets it. But as far as SE is concerned, you tend not to be able to have your cake and eat it too.
    I think you may have missed the point. It's one thing for someone who can't use the item to get it. You are correct, they may be able to use it one day. It's a completely different thing for someone who already has the item in a group to be the person getting the item in the box. This is not a rich getting richer scenario either. It's a "Let's display to the player that a drop is being completely wasted here" scenario.

    In short, I think the argument that not getting to choose who the items go to is valid, but the issue of items going to people that already have them is whats really wrong here.
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  2. #32
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    Voidwatch - where you watch the same people send the drops you want to the void.

    People have already stated that point systems would have worked to make this system function better but it's been ignored for whatever reason.
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  3. #33
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    Just to say I loved the emphasis the OP has. Made me chuckle.
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  4. #34
    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Shinryu and a lot of abyssea mobs for that matter won't drop loot if everyone in the party already has it. I assume this was to stop people from shout selling stuff on a whim. Either way the server performs a check on what items everyone has at some point and prevents it from entering the pool. I'm sure that code could be copy/pasted to chests easily enough. Not that it would fix anything. The loot system would still be terrible. Now if it performed the check and instead of making an item just not pop in your chest it made it pop in someone else's if you already had it, that would be a different story.
    That's something that has been in the game for damn near forever, as it applies to all rare/ex items that drop everywhere.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    That's something that has been in the game for damn near forever, as it applies to all rare/ex items that drop everywhere.
    I guess I never noticed it before abyssea because nothing worth paying attention too had a high enough drop rate for everyone to have one.
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  6. #36
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arylias View Post
    We had a full alliance.
    If you had a full alliance and the same two people got half of that particular drop...

    Maybe there is a pattern. Any consistency in their behavior?

    In short, I think the argument that not getting to choose who the items go to is valid, but the issue of items going to people that already have them is whats really wrong here.
    I completely agree with this.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    We did Voidwatch today and [SIZE=5]Eleven Fajin boots[/SIZE] dropped!!

    Yay!

    Thank you Square Enix Incorporated!

    The [SIZE=5]Three people[/SIZE] that got them today were really happy!

    But you know what would have been really cool:

    If the [SIZE=5]Eight[/SIZE] other boots didn't keep going to the same people!

    Can you PLEASE, Pretty please, with a Cherry on top, PLEASE do something to make this a tiny bit less ENRAGING???

    Anything???
    PLEASE???

    Please.
    I did my first Quilins yesterday. 3 fights x18 people, 3 Pairs of Fajin Boots dropped in total. I got 2 of those in a row. Noone got body neck nor any dagger. I think 1 pouch with 6 plates dropped too.
    Later on we did 3x Uptala, two Ace's bodies dropped, I got one of them (I have no job that can use it).
    There's a VW LS on my server, they've been topping out their alliance with shout people and focusing on Pilx3 for the last week. There were ppl in that LS going 0/94 (as of yesterday's tally, they were shouting today again and probably will be tomorrow too, etc) on ANY R/EX armor-weapons from Pil alone. They keep count for bitter fun.
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    Last edited by Zirael; 10-19-2011 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Shinryu and every single mob in the game for that matter won't drop loot if everyone in the party already has it.
    Fixed that for you. You can't get a Rare drop in the pool if everyone in the party/alliance already has it. This is completely different from Treasure Boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    I did my first Quilins yesterday. 3 fights x18 people, 3 Pairs of Fajin Boots dropped in total. I got 2 of those in a row. Noone got body nor any dagger. I think 1 pouch with 6 plates dropped too.
    Later on we did 3x Uptala, two Ace's bodies dropped, I got one of them (I have no job that can use it).
    There's a VW LS on my server, they've been topping out their alliance with shout people and focusing on Pilx3 for the last week. There were ppl in that LS going 0/94 (as of yesterday's tally, they were shouting today again and probably will be tomorrow too, etc) on ANY R/EX armor-weapons from Pil alone. They keep count for bitter fun.
    Welcome to Neo-Dragon's Aery.
    Qilin drops a body?
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    Player Yarly's Avatar
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    If you got the fajin boots, would you still be doing voidwatch? no.
    They need you to keep doing things.
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