Thread: Final Fantasy XI 2.0

I've played DDO at many points throughout its existence and I can tell you for sure that it didn't have anything to do with LOTRO (which also got a similar rebranding and rebuilding and F2P transition almost around the same time as DDO).

One thing you're right about though is marketing. I think I saw one ad for FFXIII, for FFXIV it was only in-store media (like the inserts that go over store security checkpoints, and posters and magazines) and the rest was E3 and word of mouth.

EVE is a really strange beast. I heard about a new FPS-styled game based in the EVE universe that, while a seperate game, actually interacts with EVE Online in some way.

FFXI does seem to be hiring for their development team, based on a post in the Japanese forums a few days ago. So maybe there's hope?

Originally Posted by Asymptotic

FFXI does seem to be hiring for their development team, based on a post in the Japanese forums a few days ago. So maybe there's hope?

Thats because they stole a guy from FFXI and sent him to FFXIV :P

on a related note: I saw a shitload of tv commercials for FFXIV when it was about to come out. They looked awesome, and even my girlfriend (who thinks MMOs are for nerds) wanted to get it. We were mad as hell when we found out that it would not be on 360, and that I needed to buy a stupid expensive graphics card to run it (they are a lot cheaper now).

Since the intelligence level of the ffxi community still seems bright, hello I'm SE, we have decided to drop our latest mmorpg project ffxiv due to numerous people bitching we don't want to ooze money into a 10 year oldgame that is limited by the ps2 as we have stated on numerous occasions. We would also like to add that we want to show our competitors and customers that we will drop anything we do that doesn't work at any time no matter how much money we dump into it, because we don't mind being the laughing stock of our dedicated playerbase and our competitors, thank you!

Seriously people? Dry the tears ffs, I play both games and they equally suck, ffxi is a done project IMO barely able to keep itself afloat, why not use it for ff14 funding, chances of ffxiv taking off for 10+ years is way more likely than ffxi getting a revamp and going 10+ more years.

I don't think a re-release would work for FFXI because its core systems really show their age. Craft system, skill system, terrible balance, some drop systems, UI. It really comes in before ps2 limitations as age limitations. Yes they could certainly change all of this with that sorta money- but they wont. And its not because they cant its because this team has never felt like doing that. That's there prerogative but not listening to your player base more seems silly(ex: PW till people got sick, current state of several jobs, "nobody uses Abyssea to exp" voidwatch drop distribution is fine).


Im still of the opinion in the long run its better FFXIV failed because square has been much better at PR since then. Its worth noting- didnt these forums come about when FFXIV needed forums for damage control? I recall them both popping up at the same time.

Originally Posted by Phen

I don't think a re-release would work for FFXI because its core systems really show their age. Craft system, skill system, terrible balance, some drop systems, UI. It really comes in before ps2 limitations as age limitations. Yes they could certainly change all of this with that sorta money- but they wont. And its not because they cant its because this team has never felt like doing that. That's there prerogative but not listening to your player base more seems silly(ex: PW till people got sick, current state of several jobs, "nobody uses Abyssea to exp" voidwatch drop distribution is fine).


Im still of the opinion in the long run its better FFXIV failed because square has been much better at PR since then. Its worth noting- didnt these forums come about when FFXIV needed forums for damage control? I recall them both popping up at the same time.

EVE is almost as old as FFXI.

People stay with FFXI because they like it's oldschool design. There is still a market for a hardcore MMO, If there wasn't FFXI wouldn't still have 300k subscribers and EVE would not have 500k.

Well, their PR certainly still needs work, but it's certainly better than it used to be.

You can thank Camate for really boosting the PR scene as far as FFXI is concerned