Geodes

[Kysaiana]

Honestly I just saved whatever geodes I got doing random things since they were added if I had done a trial with those particular geodes. With the exception of fire and light, I had well over 40 geodes for the trials I had done come the day of the update. I already have about 50 thunder geodes that I'll be holding on to in case they're used again at 99.

Anyone complaining about 40 geodes didn't have the foresight to save them in the first place. If you can't wait for the price to come down, just go farm them. They drop fairly often if you're in an area with the appropriate weather active. Fire and light path trials are screwed in that regard, but as others have said, the drop rate for the day isn't that bad either.

[Varazslo]

I needed 80 flame geodes to upgrade 2 shamshirs. Had tons of other geodes I didn't need. Went to Jeuno and did "/shout Flame Geode {Can I have it?} {You can have this} Aqua, Soil, etc. 1/1 trade". had the 80 I needed in like 5 minutes.

[Seriha]

Saved all I'd acquired over the past year, which included taking a fair chunk of jobs to 90+ with some only being in subjob range at the start, and the only type that broke 1 stack was Snow, and I'd attribute that largely to doing a few trials in Ule where Ice weather is fairly common. Otherwise getting drops based on day is pitiful and relying on weather patterns for some is erratic at best. Fight, Light, and to a lesser extent Dark geodes are among the hardest to come by solely due to their respective weather issues. Sucks, but at the same time, geodes could be worse to get.

[Anethia]

1 stack of 99 breeze geodes is 2mil on my server. And I have no problem farming those, I just go to grauberg [s] on windsday or any day in between and can farm half of what I need in just a couple of hours.

[Septimus]

I have two main reasons why 40 geodes for this upgrade annoy me.

First off, a lot of the upgrades are not worth 40 geodes. The perpetuation staves come screaming to mind. You trade in 40 geodes to get -2 Blood Pact ability delay. No extra perp, no special effects for the pet. Just -2 Blood Pact ability delay which you are already capped on. It would be different if this was a special BP delay that went beyond the -15 cap, but it does not. And the funny thing is that perp cost went up by one between level 90 and 95, so even upgrading won't break even with the current perp costs.

Secondly, how much is the next upgrade going to cost? Going from 15 to 40 is a 266% increase. If they did a similar increase for level 99, it would cost 107 geodes. Hopefully it won't be that bad, but even if they double it the cost is still going to be fairly ridiculous.

It annoys me that Magians started with "go out and put in a bunch of work to improve your character" but is finishing up with "buy a bunch of stuff". It just seems like lazy game design to me.

And before someone says anything, I can afford to buy geodes, that quite obviously isn't the point.

[Unleashhell]

Shame on SE for making us have to work for anything anymore >.>

[Rearden]

It annoys me that Magians started with "go out and put in a bunch of work to improve your character" but is finishing up with "buy a bunch of stuff".

Shame on SE for making us have to work for anything anymore >.>

Brilliance at its finest.

[Kysaiana]

While I agree most of the trial upgrades were pretty lack-luster, 40 geodes really isn't a big deal to get it. Septimus you said the perp - staves didn't get much this update and I agree. However, did you already forget the trials were you only got 1 base damage and nothing else for killing 200 mobs with the avatar? The trials aren't really "finished" till 99 so I'll reserve judgment until then. If 40 geodes isn't worth getting to upgrade a particular trial just don't bother with it then. It's not like they asked for 1500 items that only drop from one event in the game and didn't exist for a full year before hand for elemental path weapons...

[Septimus]

While I agree most of the trial upgrades were pretty lack-luster, 40 geodes really isn't a big deal to get it. Septimus you said the perp - staves didn't get much this update and I agree. However, did you already forget the trials were you only got 1 base damage and nothing else for killing 200 mobs with the avatar? The trials aren't really "finished" till 99 so I'll reserve judgment until then. If 40 geodes isn't worth getting to upgrade a particular trial just don't bother with it then. It's not like they asked for 1500 items that only drop from one event in the game and didn't exist for a full year before hand for elemental path weapons...

Yes, I do remember that. The time when the base damage of Teiwaz went from +4 to +5 was when there were two sets of upgrades given in one update, the second upgrade reduced avatar perp by one. (That was the level 80 cap update.)

Yes, the perp staves are not done, this is why you are going to have to upgrade them now; otherwise when the level 99 versions come out you are going to have to plunk down the 40 geodes for this upgrade along with however many more it is going to cost for the next one which probably have one extra perp on it. So SMNs are going to have to have one upgrade for the price of two when all is said and done.

But let me reiterate, the problem isn't with the geodes themselves, the problem is that it is incredibly lazy game design.

[johnblk73]

Brilliance at its finest.

It simple ... SE sells gil they need to make revenue for ffxiv ... throw in a timesink that will be a gil buying extravaganza ... put up sleezy gilselling website under diffrent company name .. sell gil to other gil selling sites... etc.