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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizuharu View Post
    When will these changes be applied to the test server?
    I'd guess early November.
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  2. #32
    Player Siviard's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    I can't wait to try this out on the test server!
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  3. #33
    Player Dfoley's Avatar
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    Just to clarify.

    • It does say in the JP version that it includes cure vi in the new healing algorithm.
    • Manabooster for fast cast makes perfect sense now that we can have 4-5 different spells on different times. No more reducing the recast time on nukes, but I totally give up those 2-6 seconds any day.
    • Buffs will most likely be redmage/white mage head. Most likely WHM. No reason to believe its harlequin...
    • Repair oils and the new JA: if its on a faster recast time (and seperate than regular repair) its a welcome addition imho. Sadly i doubt they will add stacks of 99 for repair oil.

    Things still missing:
    Heat capacitor -> Supposed to remove the flame consumption ( was promised a while ago)
    Scanner -> fix? change? I know its supposed to scan for elemental resistance, any chance it can not nuke a mob that is healed by fire with fire >< Also can it stop the silence on crabs ><
    Tactical processor -> Does something?


    Cant wait for this to hit test, I will test it all and post updates when it goes. My 95 pup is already copied and has all attachments so will keep everyone updated.
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  4. #34
    Player Drac's Avatar
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    Camate, Please pass on my gratitude to the dev team. Thank you for listening to the PUP community on the most important issues. I am looking forward to testing these adjustments on the test server and in Final Release.
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    Player Dawezy's Avatar
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    Any chance of the specific numbers being released? like the post a while back with this in it;

    Earth Attachments
    • Armor Plate: Defense (+10%/+15%/+20%/+25%)
    • Armor Plate II: Defense (+20%/+25%/+30%/+35%)

    So the new ones are -5% PDT -10% PDT -15% PDT -20% PDT etc
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  6. #36
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    Hopefully the armor plates give a hefty PDT bonus, because even with the boost they gave to automaton defense, they still take hits like wet tissue. :s
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    Player brayen's Avatar
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    SAM Lv 95
    did they actually give them a def boost? i had thought it was just giving us that job trait stout servant.
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  8. #38
    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Sechs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfoley View Post
    Repair oils and the new JA: if its on a faster recast time (and seperate than regular repair) its a welcome addition imho. Sadly i doubt they will add stacks of 99 for repair oil.
    I agree with the 99 stacking, but one man can hope, right?

    As for the JA of course it's gonna be on a different timer than Repair. I'm not saying I'm not welcoming this new JA, just that it's a bit "stupid". We already have Repair + Puppetry Babouches for that. We have the new Eraser, we have automatons that can cast Erase, why would we want to waste a repair oil for this new JA?
    I'm sure there are situations (like when Repair is on cooldown) but I would have liked this JA more if it didn't consume an Oil.


    Scanner -> fix? change? I know its supposed to scan for elemental resistance, any chance it can not nuke a mob that is healed by fire with fire >< Also can it stop the silence on crabs ><
    I'm afraid this might be more complicated than we thought to develop.
    Probably they don't have a field "This target casts magic" in their database. That's the reason why they used the "This target has MP" as discriminating variable.
    Supposing this is true, to solve this issue they would need to update the database for ALL the targets and add a new field. Seems highly unlikely to happen if you ask me.


    I'm pretty happy for this update, my only small disappoinment/concerns are
    • I was expecting more attachments to be updated. Especially those who work only on EM+ targets. Shame...
    • I was also expecting a larger update on elemental capacity. Like giving 7 Light slots to Soulsoother, or reducing the elemental requirement on way more attachments. There are so many insanely good combinations that we can't make use of because we lack space. Mainly Light, secondarily Thunder and last Fire. It's okayish for the other slots I guess.
    • MP will definitely become an issue unless they give us a general mp cost reduction for all mage automatons, like... dunno, 10%? Relying on ADD is stupid imho. As I mentioned before that's a stupid mechanic that was never planned to be used (of course...), yet players had to rightfully exploit it to overcome the job's limits. I don't really want to resort using on ADD once more after these fixes
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    And the autumn of life has finally come
    with the promise of winter thaw.

  9. #39
    Player brayen's Avatar
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    You have to understand this whole upcoming update is mostly for pup to be honest. While i am sure there will be future adjustments i can only assume that this is what they can officially say will be getting worked on for the coming update. I personally can not see 1 bad in the announcement bearing they dont make the AI worse. I think the mp issue will not be that bad, we do have a lot of mp reduction attachments, and prior they took very little priority to most pup and if it does become an issue this just means you need to be a bit more conservative about deploying your puppet fulltime as it should be i think, not like you lose out on much by keeping your mage bot idle when nothing is needed within a pt situation..as for low man i rly doubt mp will be an issue, maybe in pts of 4+ i would venture a guess...

    in short looks VERY promising, cant wait and to be honest alot of the players concerns are being met as far as the pup community went i think.
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  10. #40
    Player Dfoley's Avatar
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    Raijitsu
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    Ragnarok
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    You know there is already an attachment that reduces MP cost right? No real need for an mp cost reduction
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