How about an Enfeebling Magic thread?

[Stylin]

Yes, we "fit" in lots of roles. It would be nice if red mage skill set was reshaped to fit better, but for the mean time, haste, shell, refresh, protect and phalanx are all buffs that are expected to be used in a large portion of the game. Saying that the person who casts them isn't buffing the party is ass backwards.

Maybe we should tell people to stop calling 360 and ps3 game consoles. Afterall, my pc has better graphics and a larger available game catalog, so 360 and ps3 are clearly not game consoles.

I think you've missed my point. Yes, it can fill in that spot, but it's not what defines the job. RDM has so much more going for it than "party buffer".

lolwut, are we playing the same game?

I don't know, are we? You seem to be implying RDM's curing capacity is fine and is not in need of any proper adjustments.