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    Player Alderin's Avatar
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    *mistake post. please delete*
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    Must be sleep posting, like the rest of what you wrote...
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    I normally play nice but when I see someone do something specifically to prevent me from claiming a mob when it causes them to kill slower I instantly go into dynamis satan mode. The prime example of this is when a BST has proced something and instead of killing it as fast as possible disengages and pulls a new mob while dipper sllooowwwwwly kills the proced mob. I will take any mob that they are trying to hold proced or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    That Hippo was at 100% when I claimed it...and that happened once.
    No it happened every 5 minutes for 2 days. Your little DNC mule followed me around and pulled enemies off me. Even enemies half dead and procced. Even on the manticores and treants which are right next to each other. There are 20 of each of them, you'd need a whole alliance to out-kill the repop rate. There are 5 unclaimed to one side of me and 4 on the other side, and you're already fighting 4 of them yourself, and you still steal one of the 2 I'm fighting. Because you're an asshole.

    And that was my reward for trying to help you. My reward for telling you that you can proc a lot faster with Violent/desperate flourish than with animated because they take less finishing moves and have a shorter recast. You decide to screw me over at every opportunity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    As you said, "there were other unclaimed mobs around", so whats the big deal? Dont agitate me buddy. As you said, I roll 3 chars deep "holding 3 or more monsters" (which is actually impossible to hold more than 3, since a party of 3 cant claim 4 mobs), you cant mpk me, you try...I diaga on vermy, she dies, and my melee team is still in full force, I lose no time at all. However, you trying to fight 2 mobs at once will constantly go yellow. If bsts werent busy running around trying to claim secondary mobs while yuly's soloing something without any help and have then flip between purple and yellow, thus meaning things wont get stolen, I wouldnt have to run around pre-claiming mobs either like its dragons fn aery.
    Or you can switch camps. You have a healer, you can easily fight the sheep and just wake up your THF and DNC from sleep. Or you know... go to the other fucking hippogryphs. The ones there are no soloers at because a link would kill them? A link you could just sleep? The EM hippogryphs you wouldn't need to face away from and try to proc without damaging them for fear of killing them without a trigger? The ones that would die faster because your group has 3 fucking characters.

    And every time I see you you're fighting 4-5 monsters. And I don't steal any, because I'm not an asshole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    As far as no risk of losing them, any mob that goes yellow is at risk of being taken, so I take precautions to make sure they dont go yellow longer than necessary. You dont want your mobs stolen, or vulched, dont fight 2 at once.
    Only from assholes. Most people go fight one of the many unclaimed enemies. Assholes steal from each other. Assholes try to camp on top of 3 soloers and 2 groups of duoers, and fight like it's fafnir every 5 minutes. Stop being an asshole.
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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Wow, can the bull be any more transparent?

    Your little DNC mule followed me around and pulled enemies off me. Even enemies half dead and procced.
    My dnc mule is pulling mobs off you with a (usually missed) ranged attack? If a missed ranged attack is pulling hate, then you never had any hate to begin with, if you were even on the hate list. I've claimed one mob with animated flourish, and it was the one I was referring to that was at 100% that we both raced to claim.

    Even on the manticores and treants which are right next to each other.
    I fight manticores infront of selbina, not near the cliff edge that leads to the past to Konschtat, so no they're not really "next to each other".

    Or you know... go to the other fucking hippogryphs. The ones there are no soloers at because a link would kill them.
    Why would I want to fight something that has an extra 1500 HP (I'm guessing), an extra 100+ acc/atk/eva/defense on top of 20 levels worth of stats and level correction for nothing? Theres no better loot: theres no greater chance at white!! (thats been confirmed so far), its still a loot pool of 1-4 coins, the only difference is they drop a different pop item. WOW, totally worth the extra effort.

    MAYBE when SE adds the AF2+2 stuff and if the stats are worthwhile I'd consider moving over.

    you can easily fight the sheep and just wake up your THF and DNC from sleep.
    And my rdm gets too close, she gets slept, thf has hate, no way to wake the dnc or rdm up, and I lose 90 seconds of farming time when bronze window is 20 minutes..losing out on 7.5% of the bronze window. good idea...

    And every time I see you you're fighting 4-5 monsters. And I don't steal any, because I'm not an asshole.
    As I've said, the most I can hold is 3 monsters, you'll never find 4-5 monsters at lower than 100%. I have one held by the dnc (usually working on being proced), one being killed by thf (been proced), and one held by rdm (which has either been proced waiting to die, or is being held to make sure I have something to fight). If there are 4 or more mobs, theyre links that are just whiffing at me, feel free to take them.

    Only from assholes. Most people go fight one of the many unclaimed enemies. Assholes steal from each other. Assholes try to camp on top of 3 soloers and 2 groups of duoers, and fight like it's fafnir every 5 minutes. Stop being an asshole.
    If there were mobs up, I'd go claim those isntead, if theres no mobs up, then I'm not gonna sit around jerkin it while a bst is slowly dotting 2 mobs away.
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    Last edited by Nynja; 11-02-2011 at 10:36 AM.

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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    I'd LOVE to take my 3box army and go fight the EM mobs, really I would, and let the gimp bst's fight over who can dot their 2 mobs down slower...but theres absolutely no point.

    EP mobs: drop 1-4 currency when procced, less than 1% chance at white!!, drop various relic accessories, drop pop item for area boss
    EM/T mobs: drop 1-4 currency when procced, less than 1% chance at white!!, drop various relic accessories, drop pop item for lost mob that I wont fight...significantly higher HP and difficulty, 3 characters or not.

    Its useless to fight them unless you're trying to farm lost mobs. Unless SE adds +2 gear to them (useful +2 gear, not the fail that was AF2+1), or modifies loot pool (proc = 2-5 coins), and ups white!! chance to something like 3%...there is no point, I repeat, they are USELESS to waste time on, because in the time it takes me to kill 1 EM/T mob for 1-4 currency, I can still hold and kill 2 EP mobs for 2-8 currency...maybe even a 3rd mob if I'm lucky with early procs.
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    Player Shadowsong's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    I'd LOVE to take my 3box army and go fight the EM mobs, really I would, and let the gimp bst's fight over who can dot their 2 mobs down slower...but theres absolutely no point.

    EP mobs: drop 1-4 currency when procced, less than 1% chance at white!!, drop various relic accessories, drop pop item for area boss
    EM/T mobs: drop 1-4 currency when procced, less than 1% chance at white!!, drop various relic accessories, drop pop item for lost mob that I wont fight...significantly higher HP and difficulty, 3 characters or not.

    Its useless to fight them unless you're trying to farm lost mobs. Unless SE adds +2 gear to them (useful +2 gear, not the fail that was AF2+1), or modifies loot pool (proc = 2-5 coins), and ups white!! chance to something like 3%...there is no point, I repeat, they are USELESS to waste time on, because in the time it takes me to kill 1 EM/T mob for 1-4 currency, I can still hold and kill 2 EP mobs for 2-8 currency...maybe even a 3rd mob if I'm lucky with early procs.
    All I'm getting from these posts is "I hate other players". Go play a single player game buddy
    We can all see how much you value your time, can you comprehend others value their time just as much?
    Crying about BSTs lol, seriously? And this is independant of my feelings towards people who trio-box. Go in DNC solo and see how much you enjoy it.
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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    So bst's wasting other peoples times by DoTing 2 mobs down is ok because they're bsts and took a proverbial peen in the rear for 7 years...gotcha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post

    Why would I want to fight something that has an extra 1500 HP (I'm guessing), an extra 100+ acc/atk/eva/defense on top of 20 levels worth of stats and level correction for nothing? Theres no better loot: theres no greater chance at white!! (thats been confirmed so far), its still a loot pool of 1-4 coins, the only difference is they drop a different pop item. WOW, totally worth the extra effort.
    Apparently it didn't reach the BG noobs that the Tough mobs in Dreamlands Dynamis all have higher droparate (2.8 coins per mob vs 2.3 for easy preys with TH5) and much faster procrate (eyeballing but yeah MUCH faster than easy preys, I'd say less than 1/3). If you are not too gimp you should get more coins out of tough mobs as a group especially considering you are QQing about having competition which you will have in the EP camps till the end of time because SE decided to make BST not suck for once.

    Your post also proves your giant lack of game mechanics knowlege if you think tough mobs have 100 more eva/att/def than EP ; seriously I think you are just trying to find excuses.

    Also stop using white proc as a criteria for a camp. The truth is white almost never procs, I'm getting like one every week ...
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 11-02-2011 at 09:07 PM.

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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Apparently it didn't reach the BG noobs that the Tough mobs in Dreamlands Dynamis all have higher droparate (2.8 coins per mob vs 2.3 for easy preys with TH5) and much faster procrate (eyeballing but yeah MUCH faster than easy preys, I'd say less than 1/3).

    ...

    Your post also proves your giant lack of game mechanics knowlege if you think tough mobs have 100 more eva/att/def than EP ; seriously I think you are just trying to find excuses.

    ...

    Also stop using white proc as a criteria for a camp. The truth is white almost never procs, I'm getting like one every week ...
    1-eyeballing = lol, and 2.8 and 2.3 isnt much difference in drop rate, do you have a 10000 kill parse? No? Too bad.

    2-What part of game mechanics makes it wrong?

    Greater Colibri stats:
    # Level 81: Defense 322, Evasion 334, VIT 67, AGI 67
    # Level 82: Defense 327, Evasion 339, VIT 67, AGI 67

    That seems to be on par with what a lv 81 or 82 player has skillwise. If I'm so "unknowledgeable on game mechanics", care to explain how much more atk/def/acc/eva/hp/attributes a lv95-97 mob will have over a lv75-77 mob...or are they identical?
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