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  1. #61
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    Probably in part due to the fact that noone really uses restraint to it's full potential anyway. WS as fast and often as you can and it barely makes a difference to your ws. Now it will simply barely make even less difference.
    If you land three attacks in between WS, it will give you a 3%~5% direct damage boost, depending on your buffs. It's not much, but still useful (especially if you land more single hits). Imagine that kind of boost on equipment, and everyone would want it for every job.

    And now imagine a nerf being announced to Scarlet Delirium. DRKs would throw a fit despite their universal acknowledgement that the ability sucks Chocobo balls. Dfoley's comment just was completely unjustified, no one in here freaked out because of this and no one demanded anything. He's making stuff up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I am still looking forward to the JA allowing us to swap weapon damage type. Hoping they haven't forgotten about that one.
    Me too, a little disconcerting that we still didn't hear about that yet. Although we didn't hear much about any job so far, other than PUP. I would really love if we could also discard weapon type with it and make it magical, like Formless Strikes. I doubt this would happen, but it's nice to dream.
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  2. #62
    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Shouldn't really be taking anything away from Warrior.

    Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urteil View Post
    Shouldn't really be taking anything away from Warrior.

    Ever.
    Dammit, drk trolling here too? who mentioned nerfing scarlet watchamacall it?! Seriouslly, learn to play the game and what balance is before you post idiotic comments like this. No wonder 99% of your drk threads end up being ignored...
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    I would rather that instead of you taking away things from jobs - that you just boost other jobs. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    Eleven Fajin boots!
    We did Voidwatch today and Eleven Fajin Boots dropped!! Yay! Thank you Square Enix Incorporated! The Three People that got them today were really happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    I would rather that instead of you taking away things from jobs - that you just boost other jobs. But that's just me.
    Yes because it was be easier to adjust 20 jobs then one.
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    Player Dfoley's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    What terrible reading comprehension. He never said they had to give us anything, and he never demanded it. He's just hoping for it, same as every other Warrior on here.

    In fact, I've never seen a calmer reaction to an announced nerf from a group than when this was announced (which was even made clear by Camate himself in his above post), because WARs know their place and that asking for more would just be greedy.
    Going to wager a guess that you have no idea what the term 'reading comprehension' even means based on your reply.

    better give us something great at 99
    This is not a hope - this is a demand / expectation.

    "I hope they give us something nice at 99" or "wouldn't it be great if we got something nifty/useful at 99 that added utility without breaking out dd"

    Those two statements I would consider hopes and not demands.

    The reason warriors are so calm and quiet about this whole thing is they will still have fantastic DD and be highly sought after, and above all else, any warrior with half a brain already knew that the DD was a bit too high and needed adjusting.

    Compare restraint to the monk version (impetus) and you will see a completely different (wont say more balanced) alternative. Your bonus could reset every time you miss....
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    Last edited by Dfoley; 11-11-2011 at 12:49 AM.

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    Impetus is a bigger boost to Mnk's damage than Restraint is for War.
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    Last edited by Neisan_Quetz; 11-11-2011 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Yes because it was be easier to adjust 20 jobs then one.
    I never once said it wasn't easier to just gimp jobs than add new stuff. But isn't that what SE is meant to be doing? Giving us new content and leveling the playing field. Just my personal preference that I would rather they boost jobs that need it instead of gimping jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    Eleven Fajin boots!
    We did Voidwatch today and Eleven Fajin Boots dropped!! Yay! Thank you Square Enix Incorporated! The Three People that got them today were really happy

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    You know what'd give Restraint some use? Huge bonus to Subtle Blow, lower Attack by half, give damage reduction, the effect wears when you WS. Then we could at least run in and build restraint charge in situations where only the tank should be in AoE range. Could even have it share a buff position with Berserk like Hasso/Seigan or Yonin/Innin so that they overwrite each other while being on separate timers.

    Actually you know what? Forget Restraint. Just give those bonuses to Defender and put them on 3 minute timers so we can always ride one or the other, Hasso/Seigan style.
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    Last edited by Chamaan; 11-11-2011 at 04:38 AM.

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    I would rather that instead of you taking away things from jobs - that you just boost other jobs. But that's just me.
    They said they plan on boosting all other jobs. The thing is they said since WAR is so powerful right now, they'd rather not use WAR in its current state to be a model for other jobs to be based on otherwise the game would be (even) easier than it is now. So they plan on weakening WAR to where they're comfortable buffing other jobs to. So if on an imaginary scale of usefulnes ranging from 1-10, WAR is 12 ouf 10 stars. They want to make WAR a 8.5 or 9.5 out of 10 before they bring all the jobs that are currently a 6 or 7 to the new 8.5-9.5. If they brought all jobs to WAR's current level, it would be too crazy. They admitted they made WAR a little overpowered so they wanna pull it back a little so that WAR isn't ahead of every other DD by miles but by yards.
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