I have severely different numbers, for both of those claims. SAM being an outstanding DD for almost any situation, except for zerg (Polearm?), where it was just about average. My WAR outdid any SAM in the game on any zerg I ever attempted, and by a nice margin too (including two almost perfectly geared relic SAM). In other situations, I couldn't get in the 80% range of them, not in HNM, Dyna or merit parties.
MNK, on the other hand, could never hold a candle to me, although I never compared to a Spharai MNK (then again, I didn't have a Bravura either). I did have three exceptionally well-geared MNK to compete with though, and while they could sometimes come close to me, they never beat me in damage.
I agree that the average SAM was shitty, but that's just because the average player was shitty. And since SAM was the bandwagon job, everyone wanted to get in on it. Hence, the majority of SAM sucked. It doesn't mean the job sucked, it didn't then and it doesn't now. But regardless of SAM's standing, WAR is overpowered, both inside and outside of Abyssea. Most jobs are, WAR more than others.


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