[dev1029] Warrior

[Chriscoffey]

@GG

I found it nearly impossible to find a decent anything (job) on Asura.

There were around 5~9 players that I played with more than once that I could honestly say were very good. Maybe at most 10. The rest, even those who had 4~5 emps and 2~3 relics did less damage than my DRG that still uses Ares body.

So no, I've never played with a SAM that has out parsed any WAR. Took 3 WAR's to zerg VW for wins, on WAR I did 28% damage, the other two did 18/22%, (Hverg w/ dusty wing says hi)SMN did 12, (Masa)SAM did 10, the rest was BLM's and procs. This was a reoccurring thing too, not just one fight that favored WAR's high accuracy or anything.

SAM gains a lot of ground outside abyssea, but even on a Salvage boss I've out parsed masa sam using 2 hour (On a short fight ~6 WS's should make up most of the damage quickly) though only by a small percentage. We were both Paralyzed, but Retaliation made it so my DPS was higher than his even with all that WS damage.

If you're good enough at WAR that you can take the hits with retaliation up, there's no job conceivable that can out do you.

Something that is a recurring theme in any melee vs melee discussion is people play differently. Some take the game seriously enough to research and develop a tedious gear selection fine tuned to their playing. There are the others that just play for fun that don't care either way. This leads to discussion such as this that players compare people to each other and have no fundamental basis for a comparison.

The warrior job itself involves figuring out your weapon skill properties and adjusting your gear selection for it. A person then brings in another factor like a critical hit rate inside and outside abyssea which changes drastically according to that said selection. I have tried to explain why people with Uko. seem to suck outside abyssea where they are not geared accordingly but it falls on def ears. I just wish people would research and actually TRY the damn gear sets instead of always being sheep.

[Gokku]

^ thats extremely true about 99% of carbuncles ukon wars.

my maschu+2 war's ukkos in and outside abyssea straight wreck most players numbers.

ill have my ukon to 90 in about 3 months at my current play rate we will see then how much more it does.

[Dirtyfinger]

SAM was just retard proof with Gekko, 1 set does all. You needed proper buffs and gear selection on WAR to outshine SAM in continuous fighting situations like stated above.

[Camate]

As we haven’t seen any major concerns regarding the forthcoming warrior adjustment, we plan on implementing what is currently being tested on the Test Server in the version update.

We’ll monitor the adjustment post-level 99 cap increase and look into whether further adjustments are necessary. As always, please let us know if you have any feedback.

[Leonlionheart]

That's too bad.

If you gotta take something away, better give us something great at 99

[Glacont]

That's too bad.

If you gotta take something away, better give us something great at 99

Man, I hope they do.

[Dfoley]

That's too bad.

If you gotta take something away, better give us something great at 99

They don't have to give you anything... what terrible logic. Nerfing the most ridiculously broken dd job in the game via one ability hardly deems compensation mandatory. Why do they have to give you anything to make up for it? If you will still be the top at 99 then you obviously didn't need it...

[Arcon]

They don't have to give you anything... what terrible logic.

What terrible reading comprehension. He never said they had to give us anything, and he never demanded it. He's just hoping for it, same as every other Warrior on here. In fact, I've never seen a calmer reaction to an announced nerf from a group than when this was announced (which was even made clear by Camate himself in his above post), because WARs know their place and that asking for more would just be greedy. Take the lovely DRK people for example, who even bitch after an announced fix for their abilities. And about the "most ridiculously broken DD", there are still people who dispute WAR's top rank among current DDs, for good reason. Because the front lines of that race are blurry, and WAR isn't the only one at the top.

[Babekeke]

In fact, I've never seen a calmer reaction to an announced nerf from a group than when this was announced (which was even made clear by Camate himself in his above post), because WARs know their place and that asking for more would just be greedy.

Probably in part due to the fact that noone really uses restraint to it's full potential anyway. WS as fast and often as you can and it barely makes a difference to your ws. Now it will simply barely make even less difference.

I am still looking forward to the JA allowing us to swap weapon damage type. Hoping they haven't forgotten about that one.

[Arcon]

Probably in part due to the fact that noone really uses restraint to it's full potential anyway. WS as fast and often as you can and it barely makes a difference to your ws. Now it will simply barely make even less difference.

If you land three attacks in between WS, it will give you a 3%~5% direct damage boost, depending on your buffs. It's not much, but still useful (especially if you land more single hits). Imagine that kind of boost on equipment, and everyone would want it for every job.

And now imagine a nerf being announced to Scarlet Delirium. DRKs would throw a fit despite their universal acknowledgement that the ability sucks Chocobo balls. Dfoley's comment just was completely unjustified, no one in here freaked out because of this and no one demanded anything. He's making stuff up.

I am still looking forward to the JA allowing us to swap weapon damage type. Hoping they haven't forgotten about that one.

Me too, a little disconcerting that we still didn't hear about that yet. Although we didn't hear much about any job so far, other than PUP. I would really love if we could also discard weapon type with it and make it magical, like Formless Strikes. I doubt this would happen, but it's nice to dream.