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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Banish. Holy. In the same way that black magical damage and resistance is calulated on some form of "caster's INT vs target's INT", and that bard song resistance is calulated on some form of "caster's CHR vs target's CHR", white magical damage and resistance is also calulated on some form of "caster's MND vs target's MND".

    Or in short: Black magic uses dINT, songs use dCHR, white magic uses dMND, ninjutsu uses dINT and blue magic uses god knows what. Adding MND will decrease damage and increase resistance to holy and banish in the same way that adding INT will decrease damage and increase resistance to black magic nukes.
    I stated this in a later post, but it's obvious that's not what they were referring to. She may as well have asked at what rate CHR increased the Enmity gain from Provoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I stated this in a later post, but it's obvious that's not what they were referring to. She may as well have asked at what rate CHR increased the Enmity gain from Provoke.
    Ah yeah my bad, I misread "does mnd affect all magic defence" as "does mnd affect magic defence", the answer to the latter is yes: against whm spells. It was 2am gimme a break <.>
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    Only question I'll ever wonder about is why spirits have been ignored for a decade.

    Not true perhaps, since I wonder how many decades it will stay ignored. My guess is 3 decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    What other kinds of magic defense are there? I only know of "magic defense." MND doesn't affect "Magic Damage Taken -" nor does it affect magic resistances.

    No. Whatever gave you that idea?
    This

    MND increases resistance to White Magic spells as well as reducing base damage taken from them.
    Some people believe that MND increases resistance to all spells, not just White Magic, but there are no known published tests that show this conclusively. See Magical Resistance.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/MND

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Question: Does putting 'For the devs" in your topic title increase the chance they'll answer the questions?
    Answer: No.
    And this.

    Usage of this ability from behind the target seems to slightly enhance its success rate.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Steal
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    lolwikipedia entries
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    1) Wikia entries are retarded. Just throwing that out there.

    2) No. MND does not affect magic defense, period. They phrased their wiki entry poorly. It does reduce the damage taken by Light-based Nukes only, because those nukes utilize dMND. It does not increase a universal "Magic Defense" stat, does not affect Magic Defense Bonus, and does not affect Magic Damage Taken-%.

    Go to the Calculating Magic Damage page on lolwiki and you'll figure out why this is the case.

    3) Wiki entries are retarded. The wiki page for Haste used to say that it slightly increased movement speed.
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    Is there a more reliable site than ffxiclopedia?
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    For that sort of basic information? Eh. Not really.

    Even BG's random question thread assumes that people know the basics. Ffxiclopedia is a cesspool of retarded mainly because it has so much information posted by so many users. You have to be able to tell the real from the bullshit, and understand what it's saying.

    For example, even the wiki article you quoted never said that MND increased magic defense. It just says that it reduces the damage taken by MND-based nukes (Light based nukes, Banish, Holy lines). That they included the second disclaimer at all is astounding.

    Essentially, if you find information that's being reported as an "Opinion", a "Belief", or a "Rumor", 9 times out of 10 it's going to be wrong.

    If you want to glean real information from the wiki, assume that 95% of the content authors are retarded and only accept what has statistical evidence behind it. From there, if you want more advanced information, BG is a solid source for information and their random question thread is the single greatest FFXI resource on the web. BG-wiki is also the only good place to go for information on level 90+ content - Neo-Dynamis, Voidwatch, etc.
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    Usage of this ability from behind the target seems to slightly enhance its success rate.
    "Seems to" does not mean "is." No testing was done, that was obviously just someone eyeballing it. Someone probably used steal behind something once, had it work, and decided it must help.

    No matter what site you go to for information, if you don't see any hint that some kind of data was collected or testing done, such as an explanation right there or a link to a testing source, you can assume it to be suspect.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 10-11-2011 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    In the tactics games (which are totally seperate and unrelated to an online MMORPG), ALL actions have a better chance of success when used from behind, not just stealing, which renders your point invalid.

    Banish spells are around Water's damage in each tier, however, they have a lower multiplier to them, except on undead, which is what they're intended to be used against. However, when two fewer tiers of spell are available for WHM than BLM/SCH, even in that situation they falter.
    I should note that, looking at the numbers, WHM nukes do seem more efficient in terms of damage per MP than BLM nukes versus undead, at least during the levels where you're still getting divine nukes. Of course, any time a WHM is in a party, chances are they won't be fighting undead (Because undead have so many reasons to hate them), and the WHM was likely invited to heal, not nuke, and people tend to get whiny when the healer uses MP on other things.
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