Relics/Mythics/Empy?

[Karbuncle]

My main point - which you seem to be missing/ignoring - being that there are plenty of relic holders who can check this, we don't need the server to give them out for free to everyone to play with.

Name 1 Relic holder that owns a Claustrum that you know personally visits forums and the Test Server frequently. Heck, Name 1 Person with each Mythic that you know visits forums and frequently posts in regards to them and posts on these forums/Plays the test server.

I'm aware this is impossible for you to do. Because its to make a point. Yes, We may be able to easily get information on Mandau, Amano, Etc, But the rarer relics, and Rarer Mythics will be harder to get information on.

Yes, There are some relic holders with some relics, and same for mythics. But not all of them.

And what Frank said. Though I don't know why I'm trying to argue.

[FrankReynolds]

They should give them out for testing just like any other weapon / gear / item in the game. They are no different than any other item in the game in regards to need for testing and chances of botched programming.

[Concerned4FFxi]

Having them available on the test server would rock. I could then see for myself which is better for what job, etc, and then be able to make an informed decision as to which one i'd make for said job(s).

Also, it might entice people to grind out a super weapon that they might have not wanted to do orginally and therefore keep them playing longer.

[Alhanelem]

So tell me, why does the moggle give out WoE weapons?

Because these are really basic weapons (beyond the weapon skill) and there is basically no economy on the test server. If you need a weapon for a job you don't normally play, what are you supposed to use? They're not being given to you because THEY need testing (they don't, there are no new trials for them that I know of, and thus no new features that I'm aware of), they're giving them to you so you can test other things. These weapons suit all testing purposes just fine. You don't need a relic. You don't need a mythic. You don't need an empyrean. You just need a weapon.

Again, why do you need to "test" these weapons if you don't have one yourself? The very people who go after these weapons are mostly the people most able to conduct proper testing anyway. Just grab one of the weapons available to you and use that.

[FrankReynolds]

I need to test them to see if they are worth the 1500 plates. Why do you care? Why do you need me to not test them?

[Raksha]

In the last census wasn't it revealed that across all servers no one had created the BST mythic? And only one person had created the SCH mythic?

I'm sure that one guy/gal, who I notice now probably stopped playing because his highest lvl jobs are still lvl 90, is going to get back to us on whether or not the SCH mythic is working as intended.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Someone made Aymur shortly after the Census iirc. I was actually unaware someone actually went through the trouble of making Sch mythic tbh, I glazed right past that part of the census.

[Alhanelem]

Name 1 Relic holder that owns a Claustrum that you know personally visits forums and the Test Server frequently. Heck, Name 1 Person with each Mythic that you know visits forums and frequently posts in regards to them and posts on these forums/Plays the test server.

if nobody has a given weapon, then there's no reason to test it because the information doesn't benefit anyone. It's certainly not going to increase the popularity of those unpopular weapons, to be sure. Thus, I don't need to name anyone because whether I can or cant doesn't affect the point. Since I don't have a list of players that visit the test server to compare against the list of known relic holders, I can't do so, whether or not they actually do visit the test server. That doesn't mean nobody does.

Just admit it, your personal interest and the interest of most people in being given a relic on the test server has nothing to do with scientific testing- it's to play with a toy they'll never be able to obtain in the normal game.

In the last census wasn't it revealed that across all servers no one had created the BST mythic? And only one person had created the SCH mythic?

If i'm not mistaken, someone did complete the mythic axe after the date of the census data.

I need to test them to see if they are worth the 1500 plates.

Why would you need to? You have the stats on BGwiki, and people knew the stats on them before the servers even came back up after the update. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of the empyreans having any hidden effects. Thus there aren't any to test. The only changes are the damage, and the stat+ of the particular weapon. You should be able to math it out whether it's worth 1500 plates to you (I'll wager it's not)

[Raksha]

If i'm not mistaken, someone did complete the mythic axe after the date of the census data.

Way to miss the point.

[Karbuncle]

if nobody has a given weapon, then there's no reason to test it because the information doesn't benefit an1yone

Because information has never helped people in terms of deciding. And i didn't ask if anyone had it, I Asked you to name someone with the weapon that frequents the Tests servers and these forums that could report that bug. Theres quite a few people with Claustrum, But i couldn't name you one i see post on forums.

Why would you need to? You have the stats on BGwiki, and people knew the stats on them before the servers even came back up after the update.

To test hidden effects?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of the empyreans having any hidden effects. Thus there aren't any to test.

You're right, Its impossible they'll add new Effects... Like 90 Relics getting hidden 25% boost to WS Damage? or 90 Mythics getting a hidden ~15% Boost to WS Damage.

Or the Hidden increase of ODD/ODT from Relics from the 95 versions.

We wouldn't know if Empyreans had no hidden effects until its tested. While, Admittidely Empyreans are far less likely to need hidden effect testing, They could always toss a curve ball.

Also, the 95 Harp had the exact same visible stats, But it actually increased Song Duration even further, Which would have been 100% Unknown unless someone had the 95 harpe and tested it, Because the difference was not visibly shown.

Maybe I'm just too generous, but theres absolutely no way you can believe the crap you're saying right now.