Relics/Mythics/Empy?

[NDSI]

They don't give out those category of weapons due the simple reason they want things to be tested in their most raw form, making the weapons available would make testing fights useless, as you would be testing it with weapons that not everyone can get easily, that is why Abyssea/Trial+2, are available as they are easier to obtain.

[Alhanelem]

The test server isn't for playing with toys you can't otherwise obtain. It's for testing new content and finding bugs.

You want us to test... give us the equipment necessary for it.

how is an empyrean/relic/mythic weapon necessary to test new content?

They're going to give us an invincibility command for gosh sake, it wont matter what weapons you're using.

[Karbuncle]

how is an empyrean/relic/mythic weapon necessary to test new content?

'Because the hidden effects and upgrades to those weapons are new content ^^?

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't want the Relic/Emp/Mythics to fight the new mobs, I'd want them to test if theres any Hidden WS Damage upgrades, ODD/ODT Procs, Etc etc.

Improvements to Job Specifics on the Mythics.

So forth.

[Theytak]

'Because the hidden effects and upgrades to those weapons are new content ^^?

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't want the Relic/Emp/Mythics to fight the new mobs, I'd want them to test if theres any Hidden WS Damage upgrades, ODD/ODT Procs, Etc etc.

Improvements to Job Specifics on the Mythics.

So forth.

The only people who are affected by that type of thing are the people who already have them, and those people still have them on the test server. If they really need to know before changes go live, they can (if on pc) get on the test server themselves and find out, they don't need the bulk of us who don't have empy/mythic/relic weapons to do the testing for them. Unless they're a console player, but in that case there are still plenty of holders who play on pc and can test shit in their place.

What hidden effects? there aren't any.

There aren't any.

[Karbuncle]

The only people who are affected by that type of thing are the people who already have them, and those people still have them on the test server. If they really need to know before changes go live, they can (if on pc) get on the test server themselves and find out, they don't need the bulk of us who don't have empy/mythic/relic weapons to do the testing for them. Unless they're a console player, but in that case there are still plenty of holders who play on pc and can test shit in their place.

I don't know.

Knowledge for knowledge's sake. Plus, It helps more than "people who already have them", Because it could influence Mr.Smith into getting XX Relic over XX Relic because it was discovered XX Relic has XX Effect at 99, and so forth.

Knowledge of Relic hidden effects helps more than just people who are directly in possession of the item, it helps those looking to get the item and bothering to read up on their investments!

For instance, 95 Mandau and many other relics get an increase to their ODD/OTD proc, Which might influence a person to go for Mandau over Thwast. So forth.

Yes i only read the first sentence

[Atomic_Skull]

I don't know.

Knowledge for knowledge's sake. Plus, It helps more than "people who already have them", Because it could influence Mr.Smith into getting XX Relic over XX Relic because it was discovered XX Relic has XX Effect at 99, and so forth.

Knowledge of Relic hidden effects helps more than just people who are directly in possession of the item, it helps those looking to get the item and bothering to read up on their investments!

For instance, 95 Mandau and many other relics get an increase to their ODD/OTD proc, Which might influence a person to go for Mandau over Thwast. So forth.

Perhaps you're not clear on this but the test server is for bug testing not trying out which gear setup is best.

Personally I would rather see an option that would let current relic holders test the content by simply trading their weapon to the GM moogle and obtaining the end result rather than having to do the trail (since it is sounding like it won't be a "quick and done" thing this time).

Why not just have the GM Moogle dispense the trial items for 95->99? That way they could test the upgrade trial and the resulting weapon.

[Alhanelem]

'Because the hidden effects and upgrades to those weapons are new content ^^?

What hidden effects? there aren't any.

(edit note: Not any NEW ones. This turned out to be wrong, but I feel this clarification was necessary)

I'd want them to test if theres any Hidden WS Damage upgrades, ODD/ODT Procs, Etc etc.

There aren't any.

(See above)

[Byrth]

What hidden effects? there aren't any.

There aren't any.

[Greatguardian]

There aren't any.

Holy shit, lol.

Relics have always had hidden effects (Hi OTD, whose rate changed at the 95 level). Relic WS damage boost (25%) and Mythic WS damage boost (15%) were also hidden effects.

Man, I'm sure glad we didn't have people around to figure out those non-existent hidden effects.

[SNK]

What hidden effects? there aren't any.

There aren't any.

Ok for awhile you've been pretty smart about a lot of stuff you posted but you can't be serious with this comment.