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    Player Hashmalum's Avatar
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    If people are going to be expected to find the worst case scenarios as far as balance is concerned then they need the gear to do it, simple as that. Not getting that gear indicates that any feedback we make about balance is not going to be taken seriously.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Get an Empyrean on your main account then when they next do the test-server you'll have it.

    That said, I still agree. Would be good to also select the Relic, Mythic and Empyrean weapons.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    It seems to me that it is for testing for unintended consequences.

    Like when that new PLD ja was causing aeolian edge to do 99,999 dmg, or cure vs undead doing 99,999 dmg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    It seems to me that it is for testing for unintended consequences.

    Like when that new PLD ja was causing aeolian edge to do 99,999 dmg, or cure vs undead doing 99,999 dmg.
    Basically this, we're beta testers, and we happen to be the best beta testers available, we've been playing this game for years and know exactly how it works. We can test in days what it would take a development team months to do, the last patch proved that as they were changing a bunch of stuff prior to release based on test server findings.
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    Player Kitkat's Avatar
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    I'm sure that they will give relic/mythic/emp weapons as an option only if they plan to do fundamental changes to them. So far I see no reason to make them accessible as they obviously are working as the dev team expects them to. As far as war is concerned, they want to make sure the nerf isn't an over nerf or breaking something else on war, same goes for sch changes. Last thing anyone wants is a bunch of people rushing over to the test serve just so they can use items that don't actually have but want to try out. Giving access to the WoE version of the gaxe allows a war to test out the impact of the nerf on the WS still and in most cases there is access to a vast majority of good gear already to allow a person to test the intended content. There really is no need to let a person play with the best weapons if they don't correlate with the intended test content.
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    Last thing anyone wants is a bunch of people rushing over to the test serve just so they can use items that don't actually have but want to try out.
    This. If they let people have relics then the test server would immediately be flooded with people who's only interest in the test server is fooling around with a free relic. This is not what the test server is for.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    This. If they let people have relics then the test server would immediately be flooded with people who's only interest in the test server is fooling around with a free relic. This is not what the test server is for.
    As opposed to now where there has been at most 3 people online.

    More people = More chance to break additions added... that's not a bad thing. That's the whole point of the server.
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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    More people = More chance to break additions added... that's not a bad thing. That's the whole point of the server.
    Letting everyone be able to take pics to post on ffxiah going "hi I have all relics lulz" is exactly what the test server is for though...
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    Player Laraul's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    This. If they let people have relics then the test server would immediately be flooded with people who's only interest in the test server is fooling around with a free relic. This is not what the test server is for.
    No... it's for gaining 100,000,000 gil instantly... learning every spell and ability in game... warping to any area... no doubt by giving relic equipment would change everything and everyone would migrate...

    You want us to test... give us the equipment necessary for it.
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    SE has their own test server and performs their own tests, and makes adjustments as they feel like so no, they don't really need to give us a test server, it just saves them time (this was proven with their announcement on the heavy strike nerf on the JP forums, where they stated they had done similar to QC before it was released to the public). Whether or not they do a thorough test for every little thing is another issue (iirc it's not even necessary to do so most of the time).
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    Last edited by Neisan_Quetz; 10-25-2011 at 02:13 AM.

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