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    Player Novowels's Avatar
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    hell, look at Black Belt. Haste +12 and Str+7. thats been over powers for years, and no one complains. they just go after it. is what i am hoping is that the AF2+1 gets a better stat bonus than NQ AF2 upgrades. like for koga tekko...

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    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novowels View Post
    is what i am hoping is that the AF2+1 gets a better stat bonus than NQ AF2 upgrades.
    There already are AF2+1 in-game, and for the majority of the pieces it's a very minor and negligible upgrade (there are a few exceptions hey!).
    But after all it's just 1 level higher, can't expect too much.
    Don't even think we should expect them to rework the AF2+1 stats. If anything they could reduce the conditions required to attain them (no more additional ingredients, less coins, 1 day wait instead of 1 week, stuff like this).
    AF2+2 will be several levels higher most likely, I suppose level 90+? We can expect some really nice pieces, at least for situational gearswaps during certain JAs/Spells.

    For example a lot of AF2 pieces have "enhances JA/spell" bonus. The +1 version doesn't enhance that.
    I expect the +2 to do it. Like RDM hat +2 could be 2mp/tic refresh, and stuff like that basically.
    I can see a lot of dynamis coming for all of us if those upgrades will be even half as good as I'm imagining them to be :P
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    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    i wonder, why everyone is assuming that we'll have to go through the current +1 system to get +2's? they could change it so the current +1's will go to +3, and the new nq's go to +2..

    seemed like they wanted to be rid of the old system
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    Quote Originally Posted by esoR View Post
    i wonder, why everyone is assuming that we'll have to go through the current +1 system to get +2's? they could change it so the current +1's will go to +3, and the new nq's go to +2..

    seemed like they wanted to be rid of the old system
    Why? The CoP dynamis change made it significantly easier to obtain -1 pieces. There's very little point in making a +2 system that ignores the +1s.

    However, if they just added "Augments" along the lines of Abjuration gear, then there would be an intrinsic value to having the +1 AF2 as those augments cap higher on HQ gear.
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    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by esoR View Post
    i wonder, why everyone is assuming that we'll have to go through the current +1 system to get +2's? they could change it so the current +1's will go to +3, and the new nq's go to +2..

    seemed like they wanted to be rid of the old system
    I don't know if "everyone" is assuming it.
    As for me I was assuming it because it seemed the most logical and coherent thing to do.
    It would revamp the current content i.e. it would make people want to farm for those -1. If they don't do it the majority of people will keep doing what they're doin now: i.e. ignoring them.
    Instead it would be beneficial for them, because it would be yet another time-sink to keep players busy with, and they wouldn't have to do anything to achieve that.

    Sounds beneficial for them under all points of view, at least as far as I can tell.


    Doing things the way you suggested (which might as well be what will happen in the end, who knows) would mean they would have to work more.
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    Player esoR's Avatar
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    i think we all voted no augments. i'd just like to see the whole +1 system revised. the 1 week wait needs to go, the coin requirement is a bit steep, and not uniform, if they make everything equal, and allow us to complete it at the same speed we can do af3, i think that'd be balanced.

    on the other subject, i thought, that when relic upgrades were announced, they wanted to upgrade relics to a new level, and do something special for those that are +1 currently. (like having different trials for nq/+1 going through the magian moogle)
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    I'm confused. What are you people using that leaves you so obsessed with having so much haste on your hands? +2head/legs/feet/twilight belt is 24% right there.
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    That's 2% from cap, there's little or no reason to be TPing if Iga Tekko if that's what you're getting at. It'd make more sense to throw Okotes back on for what NIN is doing. And for those people who keep up with gear should be back to using augmented Haidates. 4% haste puts you exactly at the haste cap in that setup.
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    Dusk +1 and Usukane Sune-ate for 26% gear haste.
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