Ninja 2HR... Why isn't it changed yet?

[Rearden]

Can we get a response from the Dev's about, why is Ninja's 2hr still the same? It's imo the most useless 2hr, as in you kill yourself for crappy dmg, and no reraise effect upon using. The mythic weap alows for reraise with more hp when most of the time, hp level don't really matter cause of temp or having a healing job in party, along with /dnc sub. So can we get a response on why is ninja 2hr so useless to combat situation (tanking, dding) and why if any, that the dev's (not community) decide to leave it so.

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What is this "we" mess? When I see "we" I assume you are including other people, but then later you say that other people should not be included. This is confusing.

You should change it to "I" because you are the only one who has a problem with one of the better 2h abilities in the game.

[Greatguardian]

ITT: Random FFXIAH poster thinks he matters.

[Spiritmage]

You guys really need to chill out and stop the fighting over the forums. Anubis simply asked if SE was ever going to make some changes to MG, and the majority of you derailed the topic. If you can't add to the topic or stick with it, then don't post here. I'm pretty positive he's not the only person in the whole wide world that would like to see a change to MG. His approach may have been rude at first, but at least he went straight to the point. I don't have Ninja leveled passed sub job at the moment (however I am thinking of taking it further for my own purposes), but I could say MG could use more improvements. For instance, how the mobs use it (being AoE and not dieing from it). Some kind of improvement like that could be nice, but say a catch to it being you have to use it in a certain percent range of your max HP.

[Greatguardian]

You guys really need to chill out and stop the fighting over the forums. Anubis simply asked if SE was ever going to make some changes to MG, and the majority of you derailed the topic. If you can't add to the topic or stick with it, then don't post here. I'm pretty positive he's not the only person in the whole wide world that would like to see a change to MG. His approach may have been rude at first, but at least he went straight to the point. I don't have Ninja leveled passed sub job at the moment (however I am thinking of taking it further for my own purposes), but I could say MG could use more improvements. For instance, how the mobs use it (being AoE and not dieing from it). Some kind of improvement like that could be nice, but say a catch to it being you have to use it in a certain percent range of your max HP.

You don't have NIN leveled and/or a Kikoku? OP would tell you to get out of this thread.

You really should not be white knighting him. Try reading this thread for a moment and you'll realize that the only off-topic bullcrap came spewing right from the OP's throat. While the rest of us were actually discussing Mijin, he decided to go all "Herp derp I'm an emotionally insecure beta male" on us and turned his crap thread into an even bigger pile of crap.

Mijin is pretty neat. It's not universally useful, but it's unique and good at what it does.

[Tamoa]

You guys really need to chill out and stop the fighting over the forums. Anubis simply asked if SE was ever going to make some changes to MG, and the majority of you derailed the topic. If you can't add to the topic or stick with it, then don't post here. I'm pretty positive he's not the only person in the whole wide world that would like to see a change to MG. His approach may have been rude at first, but at least he went straight to the point. I don't have Ninja leveled passed sub job at the moment (however I am thinking of taking it further for my own purposes), but I could say MG could use more improvements. For instance, how the mobs use it (being AoE and not dieing from it). Some kind of improvement like that could be nice, but say a catch to it being you have to use it in a certain percent range of your max HP.

How is stating our opinion on Mijin Gakure and giving examples of when it's useful, derailing the topic? Is comparing it to other 2hrs derailing the topic? I hardly think so.

[Anubis]

What is this "we" mess? When I see "we" I assume you are including other people, but then later you say that other people should not be included. This is confusing.

You should change it to "I" because you are the only one who has a problem with one of the better 2h abilities in the game.

When i say we im including other who feel the same way i do, people who comment on this thread with the same outlook and ninja 2hr, not other idiots who arent main, doesn't know anything about the job, doesn't even play the job fulltime, basically bandwagon idiots. And no i am not the only one who feels this way, a lot of other veteran feel the same if you truly are a ninja, this is for the people who love the job to death not some random jack*** who feel they need to post on every thread or forum cause they have no gf or life.

[Spiritmage]

I expected this to happen, I didn't mention names bar one, I merely stated my opinions. It seems that that can't be tolerated on these forums.

Yes I don't have Ninja leveled, but it doesn't mean that I didn't take the time to learn the basics of the job and understand how to use it.

I've read this thread, I understand where this is all going, I also understand this was posted on the Ninja forums, yet other people decided to bring in other jobs' 2 hours into this.

I don't know what to say, but it does seem to me that no matter what anyone posts on ANY forums, there's going to be someone out there that just wants to stir up trouble (and don't include me in this, as I said, i merely stated my OPINIONS).

I've been playing since the release of Chains of Promathia, so don't go telling me I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Cesil]

I expected this to happen, I didn't mention names bar one, I merely stated my opinions. It seems that that can't be tolerated on these forums.

Yes I don't have Ninja leveled, but it doesn't mean that I didn't take the time to learn the basics of the job and understand how to use it.

I've read this thread, I understand where this is all going, I also understand this was posted on the Ninja forums, yet other people decided to bring in other jobs' 2 hours into this.

I don't know what to say, but it does seem to me that no matter what anyone posts on ANY forums, there's going to be someone out there that just wants to stir up trouble (and don't include me in this, as I said, i merely stated my OPINIONS).

I've been playing since the release of Chains of Promathia, so don't go telling me I don't know what I'm talking about.

This. It is as if people are not allowed to have opinions at all. Also folks don't seem to understand why bringing up other 2Hr's is not really helpful and has little or nothing to do with OP purpose. I don't mind people discussing stuff and what not...if they want to they are more then welcome to make another thread...instead of derailing this one and then wondering why OP getting frustrated. >.>

[Tamoa]

When i say we im including other who feel the same way i do, people who comment on this thread with the same outlook and ninja 2hr, not other idiots who arent main, doesn't know anything about the job, doesn't even play the job fulltime, basically bandwagon idiots. And no i am not the only one who feels this way, a lot of other veteran feel the same if you truly are a ninja, this is for the people who love the job to death not some random jack*** who feel they need to post on every thread or forum cause they have no gf or life.

Here's a tip: do not post on a forum where every member has equal rights to post, and expect replies only from people that agree with you.

Neither you nor I or any other forum member has the right to tell who can and cannot post in this or any other thread on this forum.

Trying to do so, especially in how you edited your very first post, you come across as incredibly arrogant and rude. You might not care about that, but expect reactions from other people.

I expected this to happen, I didn't mention names bar one, I merely stated my opinions. It seems that that can't be tolerated on these forums.

That's exactly what the majority of us have been doing aswell. We are of the opinion that Mijin Gakure is fine as it is, and we are of the opinion that other job's 2hrs need improvement way more than nin 2hr does. And we have given examples of which 2hrs we have in mind.

[Anubis]

Here's a tip: do not post on a forum where every member has equal rights to post, and expect replies only from people that agree with you.

Neither you nor I or any other forum member has the right to tell who can and cannot post in this or any other thread on this forum.

Trying to do so, especially in how you edited your very first post, you come across as incredibly arrogant and rude. You might not care about that, but expect reactions from other people.

Lol you should really take your own advice. Also should learn how to stay on topic, you know? Love how you give me so much attention, you and the other ill-intelligent poster from cerberus.