Ninja 2HR... Why isn't it changed yet?

[Novowels]

i still want an answer to how Reacton Arm Enhances Mijin

[kewitt]

how is it useless. Infact I love the way it currently is.
Ninja tanking NM,
Ninja dies.
Warrior tanks.
Ninja gets raised
Ninja pops reraise
Ninja goes boom..
Ninja gets up cured without weakness.!

So your saying a 20 second weakness is useless vs a 5 min one?

[Tamoa]

i still want an answer to how Reacton Arm Enhances Mijin

It adds 10% to your Mijin Gakure damage.

[Mizuharu]

NIN 2hr is fine. Fix PUP's AI. Or DRG's 2hr.

[Dfoley]

@Cecil:

It's extremely useful in those lowman situations where shit hits the fan and the nin goes down, there's no form of backup tank and the mob is going for the mages. Because you know, that can actually happen.

Rng 2hr = useless
Drk 2hr = useless
Thf 2hr = useless
Drg 2hr = meh
Pld 2hr = meh again, would be better if it negated ALL damage
Mnk 2hr = not always as useful or powerful as people like to think
War 2hr = close enough to useless in abyssea

As a pup and mnk I gotta say....

• Mnk 2 hr is useless if you have bard haste + whm its gonna add maybe 4% haste to you
• Pup called, its 2hr is so hurt it was left off the list and its worse than 80% of the jobs you listed.
• THF and PLD you can atleast see a difference
• WAR 2 hr is far from useless. Its used every time you fell cleave...

All in all, i feel the OP doesn't understand how useful their 2 hr is compared to other jobs and frankly from the reading of this thread I get the strong impression that they aren't even that good at their job (read as: They had no clue how the 2hr is supposed to be used.) It might just be the elite-trollness of his postings, but frankly when I see that all i can picture is some 12 year in their moms basement rageing over how a game isn't fair because they cant use game genie.

That being said, adding an innate reraise to it wouldnt be over powered.



/tosses a "Troll Carrot"

[Tamoa]

As a pup and mnk I gotta say....

• Mnk 2 hr is useless if you have bard haste + whm its gonna add maybe 4% haste to you
• Pup called, its 2hr is so hurt it was left off the list and its worse than 80% of the jobs you listed.
• THF and PLD you can atleast see a difference
• WAR 2 hr is far from useless. Its used every time you fell cleave...

All in all, i feel the OP doesn't understand how useful their 2 hr is compared to other jobs and frankly from the reading of this thread I get the strong impression that they aren't even that good at their job (read as: They had no clue how the 2hr is supposed to be used.) It might just be the elite-trollness of his postings, but frankly when I see that all i can picture is some 12 year in their moms basement rageing over how a game isn't fair because they cant use game genie.

That being said, adding an innate reraise to it wouldnt be over powered.



/tosses a "Troll Carrot"

My pup is lvl 1, I don't even know what pup 2hr does lol. ; ;

And yes, that's what I meant when I said mnk 2hr isn't always as powerful as people might think.

Thf and pld 2hr is less useful than Mijin Gakure in a party/alliance.

And you're right about war 2hr, I totally didn't think of FC, probably because I never do it myself due to my shitty pc. I lag out if I have too many mobs beating on me at once. But in an oh shit moment in a party/alliance, a war's 2hr isn't going to make a damn bit of difference.

[Anubis]

As far as what I would like to see happen with MG. It would probably be something like a combination of the few.

1. Make migawari null dying when using MG(so that you don’t get the dead animation on floor 0 hp thing) and add bonus dmg to the 2hr as your hp decrease.

2. Adjust dmg of MG that would make it worthwhile to use, not MGing on something critical you or a group is fighting and only doing like 101 dmg..

3. Monster status aliments have it inflict some kind of server weakness on a monster like max stats and hp/mp down for like 30-1min duration.

4. Or even something on the lines where you'd sacrifice yourself for the good of the battle but when you get up, you can have a temp aftermath that enhances your skill set/dmg output.


Also still looking forward to a Dev/Dev Rep response on their opinion on MG and if it’s a successful to the job. And is this what they envisioned for ninjas and its current role. Also how did they intend for it to be used and what would it do specifically.

[Cesil]

I don't feel that a 2HR should only be used as an "Oh-shi*" moment or whatever...I don't know if that is what SE intended or not though so I can't say..just my opinion(Which I am certainly entitled to have, just as everyone else is entitled to theirs, which I respect). As SCH and BLU I use my 2HR a lot and just keep getting ISL and what not. I am certainly not in an O-shi* moment....kind of wish all of them were that useful.

[Anubis]

Once again don't even know why people are posting about other 2hr and if they are useful or useless. I do not care. I made this post to get some insight on what the dev thinks about ninja 2hr and if possible to improve it from being by far an easy way to get rid of weakness. I really don't know how many of you can use a pc and not know how to read. Would really appreciate it if you'd plain out stop posting trash or basically talking out of your butt when you clearly have no idea about what I’m asking her or whom I’m addressing my initial post too. And maybe those of you that are posting asinine replies to it should really go back to your game and review the way on how you actually play the game. Don't blame me because you don't have the intelligence to play a mere video game.

Getting tired of nonsense posting on here.. Learn how to shut up and keep to your self, when something isn't addressed to you or is asked for your opinions.

[Kimble]

You can't post a thread in an PUBLIC FORUM and tell people what they can and can not post. You can't sit there and go "This is ONLY FOR ONE PERSONS EYES" when anyone can walk in and read it.

The reason why people bring up other jobs 2hr is simply 1) To show that NIN 2hr is no where as bad as you make it out to be and 2) To show that other jobs need adjustments to their 2hrs before NIN does.

Also, I was under the impression that BLU 2hr still sucks so not sure why you are using it all the time.

Maybe you don't care, but doesnt mean that everyone else that has responded in this thread doesnt care either.