Base Empyrean Weapons Need Weaponskills

[Cybernetic_Empire]

Not sure how to preface this so let's just dive in.

Once you are finished with whatever VNM magian trials you need you are presented with a choice to either work towards an Empyrean weapon or a lesser weapon (NQ) that still allows you to use one of the new weapon skills. There seems to be a disparity between the difficulty of obtaining the new weapon skills on Empyrean weapons versus their NQ cousins. For this reason I believe that weapon skills (such as Victory Smite) should come on the base (level 80) version of the Empyrean weapons. I'll use the H2H magian trials as an example as that's what I'm familiar with.

In order to acquire Victory Smite on the Empyrean magian trial path you are required to gather 50 items from Chloris, who drops 1-2 items per fight. At the very least, you need to kill this NM 25 times (and she ain't that generous). Chloris requires four key items which are acquired from three poppable NM's and one timed spawn NM. It takes seven items to pop these NMs and four of those items come from four other poppable NMs. So in reality you're looking at gathering eleven items, fighting 8 popped NMs, fighting one spawned NM, and getting red !! on 4 NMs PER Chloris.

You also need to acquire 50 items from Ulhudashi, who drops 1-2 items per fight. Same as above you will have to fight this NM at least 25 times. In order to pop this NM you need two key items. One is gathered from a popable NM which only requires one item to pop and the other is from a timed spawn NM.

Now on to the NQ path which in this case would be Revenant Fists. Base Revenant Fists require 30 Coins of Advancement from the Walk of Echos battlefield. This is a battlefield anyone can enter and participate in once per game day for 30 (or was it 45?) minutes. Revenant Fists +1 gain access to Victory Smite and require 20 Kindred's Crests, which is an incredibly common drop in most higher level zones (I myself have 4 stacks of 99).

So to summarize for the tldnr crowd.

Total MINIMUM Work for Victory Smite On Verethragna Path:

Chloris: 25 times
Pop Items: 275
Popped NMs: 175
Timed NMs: 25

Ulhudashi: 25 times
Pop Items: 25
Popped NMs: 25
Timed NMs: 25

Total:
Pop Items: 300
Popped NMs: 275
Timed NMs: 50

Total Work for Victory Smite on Revenant Fists Path:

Coins of Advancement: 30
Kindreds Crest: 20

Does that NOT seem crazy to anyone else? My suggestion is this:

Level 80 Empyrean Weapons: Gain access to Empyrean weapon skills (such as Victory Smite)

Level 85 Empyrean Weapons: Gain access to Aftermath

Level 90 Empyrean Weapons: Increased stats, lowered delay, etc