Gob Sack

[LeaderofAtlantis]

Fine the PS2 is, that's not the main point of my argument though. I'm a THF mainly. I've gone through the phases of "Do you have TH gear? You must wear it at all times", etc.

Gear swapping was not part of the original design of the game. It's an overlooked side effect to the original coding and they won't fix it, but they certainly shouldn't make it even easier for you to do. My feeling is that if your gameplay is that gear dependent, that might be one reason creatures like Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden weren't taken out before the Lv75 cap was increased.

I gear swap, I do, but I don't need more than 80 slots to play and play well.

[Dirtyfinger]

I gear swap, I do, but I don't need more than 80 slots to play and play well.

Poor argument, just because you don't optimize your character at all times doesn't mean others don't.

[LeaderofAtlantis]

Poor argument, just because you don't optimize your character at all times doesn't mean others don't.

Poor argument. Plenty of people didn't want SE to change the minimum level requirement for Abyssea either, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have happened. I mean, if you can take a job from Lv30 to Lv75 or higher in less than 24 hours, why not just create a Moogle that asks "What level do you want to be?" and get "the grind" over with. I'm guessing you wouldn't want that either because it'd be absurd.

If you need more than 80 gear pieces in order to be successful in a battle in this game, you're doing something wrong.

[FrankReynolds]

Poor argument. Plenty of people didn't want SE to change the minimum level requirement for Abyssea either, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have happened. I mean, if you can take a job from Lv30 to Lv75 or higher in less than 24 hours, why not just create a Moogle that asks "What level do you want to be?" and get "the grind" over with. I'm guessing you wouldn't want that either because it'd be absurd.

If you need more than 80 gear pieces in order to be successful in a battle in this game, you're doing something wrong.

Actually his argument was spot on.

Just because you can main heal on WHM with no gear on doesn't mean that it's a good idea, or even fun for that matter.

SE put macros in the game (as they should have), and using them means having gear to use them with.

If you don't want to change gear for the situation, that's your prerogative, But the bulk of the community wants to swap into the best gear possible for each action they perform. That means we need a way to access that gear. Making and using macros is as much of a challenge as anything else in the game, and just as much a part of it. Frankly if you are bad at gear swap macros, then on at least some level, you are not good at the game.

[Dirtyfinger]

Poor argument. Plenty of people didn't want SE to change the minimum level requirement for Abyssea either, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have happened. I mean, if you can take a job from Lv30 to Lv75 or higher in less than 24 hours, why not just create a Moogle that asks "What level do you want to be?" and get "the grind" over with. I'm guessing you wouldn't want that either because it'd be absurd.

If you need more than 80 gear pieces in order to be successful in a battle in this game, you're doing something wrong.

Explain to me how I'm doing it wrong by having say 70+ pieces of equipment?

Apart from the obvious TP & WS sets there's a magnitude of other sets I carry around to be well, optimial, which in turn is kinder on the healers.

Let's say I'm on Samurai:

I have +50 Enmity for Provoke - easy to figure out why.

I have +200 for Barfire, and with a properly equipped Bar spell set mage I can reach over 350, handy for tanking things like Tiamat or Orthrus if I'm in Abysea.

MDT set so I always take -50% of the damage taken (with Shellra V), also some MDB to negate that further.

PDT -50% for nasty TP moves, or if Third Eye is down.

Then there's stuff like the Meditate, Sekkanoki gear.

Edit: I forgot to mention I can exceed that amount of gear quite easily on NIN seeing as I'd have to carry Ninjutsu tools, Nuking set and additional weapons if I'm in Abyssea for proc.

[Arcon]

If you need more than 80 gear pieces in order to be successful in a battle in this game, you're doing something wrong.

Yes, thankfully no one argued that. Well, except you just now. Not sure who you're talking to. But some people tend to talk to themselves on here, so I'll just go with it.