[dev1000] Dyna Reborn!(This is a joke...right?....Right?)

[Krystal]

For someone that has actively complained about everything in this game it's a wonder why you still even bother playing. You're seriously complaining about SE revamping old / obsolete content? Here's a hint as to why they're doing that: this game is over eight years old. The majority of the "new" players are ones that are returning; of which I'm sure more than half had originally quit because of problems with the old systems. You sit here and complain that SE is making changes to this game, you incessantly cry over abyssea and changes made to the exp system in general, and now you want to actually make the claim that this dynamis update is somehow going to take away players' "hard work"? What work? The most difficult thing there was to do in dynamis was staying awake for the 3+ hours it usually ran.

So while you are sitting at your computer intently looking for the next great injustice brought about by the dev team why don't you try to keep a few things in mind:

1. No one is forcing you to participate in any of the content in this game
2. If there are so many people that feel as strongly as you do that the devil (Abyssea, easier exp, revamped content) is a bane to the existence of this game then perhaps you should all congregate together on a server and actively not participate, or protest, or burn books, or whatever it is you people do with your time
3. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that others aren't enjoying it
4. Realize it's a game and if you don't like the changes being made you are always free to voice your opinion quitting the game.

don't you even care about what happened to the challenge? that's what the big issue is about here. i love a challenge. and SE is taking every challenge FFXI has..one after the other and turning it into a laughing stock. i pay roughly $25-30 a month on FFXI with all my content IDs included. sure that don't seem much at a small glance but think of it one the long term scale 25x5 years=$1,500-$1800(if i'm doing the math right) now times that by the player base who wants a challenge in the game which makes up more than half of the Alexander server which has roughly 1200 people in it 600x1,500=$900,000-$1,080,000 now looking at those numbers...that's one hell of a profit not even including how many content IDs other players may have and how much their monthly totals to...now consider this: Those players all leave due to the lack of challenge in the game.....ya...that's bad for them! unlike you i don't look at the here and now i look at it from a long term business point of view. which makes your statement about the"here and now" pretty much irrelevant but not completely. the points you made at the bottom are dead on...but i stay because i love this game no matter how much FFXI kills it..however if they kill it much more i may actually leave.

[Malamasala]

How about SE just send a relic, mythic, lvl90 empyrian to everyones delivery boxes for no work at all?

If I ever saw a MMO do this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The worst part of MMOs have always been the part where you have to spend hours, every week, doing things you don't want to do. All because some item drops from the activity.

Also you should consider your example in real life. If someone gave you a car for free, would you complain that you didn't get to work and earn the car, or would you be happy? Another good question is if you'd complain that you didn't earn the money for the car by working at a farm, LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYs, and instead got the easy patched version where you worked in an office.

It all usually boils down to the same thing. You want bragging rights. You want to be able to say you spent 500 days playing FFXI and now got 20 jobs at 90. You want to say you got a relic weapon, that nobody else has. Any sane person would accept things for free as long as they'd have some enjoyment out of the item.

[Delsus]

If I ever saw a MMO do this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The worst part of MMOs have always been the part where you have to spend hours, every week, doing things you don't want to do. All because some item drops from the activity.

Also you should consider your example in real life. If someone gave you a car for free, would you complain that you didn't get to work and earn the car, or would you be happy? Another good question is if you'd complain that you didn't earn the money for the car by working at a farm, LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYs, and instead got the easy patched version where you worked in an office.

It all usually boils down to the same thing. You want bragging rights. You want to be able to say you spent 500 days playing FFXI and now got 20 jobs at 90. You want to say you got a relic weapon, that nobody else has. Any sane person would accept things for free as long as they'd have some enjoyment out of the item.

You are somone that has been spoiled by modern games that you can clock in 1 day and get everything in 2, also if you want everything given to you then you shouldnt play mmos, mmos are designed to take awhile, not so you can get everything in 1 month cancel your subscription then never play again. Any mmo that does this will die a fast death.

If SE can make it so it takes 2yrs to get somthing they will make alot more money than if you can get everything in 3 months and its somthing that keeps you playing.

Oh and if you check my ffxiah profile (same name as my display name here) you will see i dont have 20 jobs at lvl 90 and i dont have a relic, I just want the game to be a challenge and make me want to play, as i said before the only thing keeping me playing is the hope that some worthwhile endgame gets released this year, not an NM that will be killed it 5 seconds with the single worse item i have seen in a game.

[Unaisis]

Solo Dynamis if you want a challenge.... Seriously, i don't get it... If you needed to dig a big ass hole in the ground to install a pool and you had the option to use shovel or an Excavator, you would use the shovel just for the challenge. .... Actually... i can think a few people that would >..>. Ugh i cant understand all this Q.Qing lol

[Nathos]

Ppl complain there is no challenge and yet use atmas, dualbox chars, use windower, use bots. Seriously?

[MrWigglles]

don't you even care about what happened to the challenge? that's what the big issue is about here. i love a challenge. and SE is taking every challenge FFXI has..one after the other and turning it into a laughing stock. i pay roughly $25-30 a month on FFXI with all my content IDs included. sure that don't seem much at a small glance but think of it one the long term scale 25x5 years=$1,500-$1800(if i'm doing the math right) now times that by the player base who wants a challenge in the game which makes up more than half of the Alexander server which has roughly 1200 people in it 600x1,500=

$900,000-$1,080,000now looking at those numbers...that's one hell of a profit not even including how many content IDs other players may have

What you're not understanding is the total player base has dropped drastically. They're making a lot less money than past years. It's a business like any other. If the business is making less and less every year changes have to be made.

[Delsus]

Solo Dynamis if you want a challenge.... Seriously, i don't get it... If you needed to dig a big ass hole in the ground to install a pool and you had the option to use shovel or an Excavator, you would use the shovel just for the challenge. .... Actually... i can think a few people that would >..>. Ugh i cant understand all this Q.Qing lol

lol its funny how many people are starting to throw in the rl cards, guess what this is a game, I like my games to be a challenge like most of the player base and i dont want to solo anything because thats not why I play a mmo, i play a mmo to, guess what, play with other people which is where the massivly multiplayer comes in.

But seeing as people are throwing in the rl cards heres one, who here had a ferarri when they were 17? i can guess no one, but if you work for it and save the money up, you could have one later in life.

Or will you think that its too much work, you would just prefer to get a beat up car you got off wellfare because you couldnt be bothered to work?

Ppl complain there is no challenge and yet use atmas, dualbox chars, use windower, use bots. Seriously?

The only reason I use atma is becaue its whats expected, I would much prefer not to, and I dont use any of the other things you mentioned and never will.

[Krystal]

If I ever saw a MMO do this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The worst part of MMOs have always been the part where you have to spend hours, every week, doing things you don't want to do. All because some item drops from the activity.

Also you should consider your example in real life. If someone gave you a car for free, would you complain that you didn't get to work and earn the car, or would you be happy? Another good question is if you'd complain that you didn't earn the money for the car by working at a farm, LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYs, and instead got the easy patched version where you worked in an office.

It all usually boils down to the same thing. You want bragging rights. You want to be able to say you spent 500 days playing FFXI and now got 20 jobs at 90. You want to say you got a relic weapon, that nobody else has. Any sane person would accept things for free as long as they'd have some enjoyment out of the item.

if someone gave me a car free...the first question i'd ask is"WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT?!" and the same applies to FFXI as well i look at FFXI handing people free levels and crap and i go"WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS GAME?!"

[Alhanelem]

You are somone that has been spoiled by modern games that you can clock in 1 day and get everything in 2

It's not being spoiled. Games are being designed to take less time out of the day in one session because people have less time these days. That doesn't mean that the shorter time you spend can't be fun and/or challenging. Why should th e only metric that matters be the amount of time you spent to get something? "Oh, it took me 100 hours to get this item, i'm more awesome than you?" Um... no. "I beat this tough NM to get this item" doesn't require that you spend a jillion hours as a prerequisite.

You are someone who is used to things taking forever in games and can't accept that something can be fun and challenging even if it doesn't take forever.

if someone gave me a car free...the first question i'd ask is"WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT?!"

Then you're paranoid. Do you question people when they do something nice for you without you asking?

[Icestein]

When has dynamis ever been a challenge? I don't get it. I don't. It can be done with 4 people. It's an irrelevant event.

Yet, there's still people who would like gear from it, this update accommodates for that, it allows us to gain gear without having to join a linkshell and eat up our time. It's a good thing. It's a great thing. Despite opinion to the contrary having to wait several months for an item, or to level, is not difficulty. It is tedious and unnecessary. I quit and rejoined thanks to how the game plays now. That is all.