Cure V

[Neisan_Quetz]

Cureskin isn't the only thing going for Whm making it the only worthwhile healer to bring anywhere on not fodder content. It just adds to it.

Anyone who still thinks Cure V is all that separates Whm from Rdm in healing potential needs to step out of 2006.

@Above with Rapture yes Sch will outcure but otherwise ignoring cureskin is pretty what. That is an additional 400 hp on top of the cured amount, even with aurastorm + Twilight cape Sch still can't match that.

[Hyrist]

Anyone who still thinks Cure V is all that separates Whm from Rdm in healing potential needs to step out of 2006.
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You're ignoring the point.

Let me bold it for you.

It is not about the high end of the curing ability so much as the low end of the curing requirement. Player will go with the bottom of the barrel cure if they can afford to get away with it, and WHM lacks the other utilities to make it a compedetive pick against RDM and SCH unless RDM and SCH are more or less incapable of filling the role.

The Playerbase WILL force all support roles onto one job if they feel they can get away with it. (Back to RDM+BRD days.) Instead of distributing their functions into a more varied set-up.

If RDM or SCH is capable of taking the healing load, goodbye WHM. It dosen't matter if the WHM is a better healer or not, another mage just just has to be passable to bump WHM off. It currently does not have enough of a draw into other functions to make it a contender outside "Omg this mob's tough we need a whm!"

[Daniel_Hatcher]

You're ignoring the point.

Let me bold it for you.

It is not about the high end of the curing ability so much as the low end of the curing requirement. Player will go with the bottom of the barrel cure if they can afford to get away with it, and WHM lacks the other utilities to make it a compedetive pick against RDM and SCH unless RDM and SCH are more or less incapable of filling the role.

The Playerbase WILL force all support roles onto one job if they feel they can get away with it. (Back to RDM+BRD days.) Instead of distributing their functions into a more varied set-up.

If RDM or SCH is capable of taking the healing load, goodbye WHM. It dosen't matter if the WHM is a better healer or not, another mage just just has to be passable to bump WHM off. It currently does not have enough of a draw into other functions to make it a contender outside "Omg this mob's tough we need a whm!"

So every other role can be filled by multiple jobs, but it's not okay for other jobs that have healing skill to be capable of actually erm... healing?

Sorry that's bull.

[cidbahamut]

So every other role can be filled by multiple jobs, but it's not okay for other jobs that have healing skill to be capable of actually erm... healing?

Sorry that's bull.

Not to mention poor game design.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You're ignoring the point.

Let me bold it for you.

It is not about the high end of the curing ability so much as the low end of the curing requirement. Player will go with the bottom of the barrel cure if they can afford to get away with it, and WHM lacks the other utilities to make it a compedetive pick against RDM and SCH unless RDM and SCH are more or less incapable of filling the role.

The Playerbase WILL force all support roles onto one job if they feel they can get away with it. (Back to RDM+BRD days.) Instead of distributing their functions into a more varied set-up.

If RDM or SCH is capable of taking the healing load, goodbye WHM. It dosen't matter if the WHM is a better healer or not, another mage just just has to be passable to bump WHM off. It currently does not have enough of a draw into other functions to make it a contender outside "Omg this mob's tough we need a whm!"

Lacks what other utilities? Mp conservation? Nope, Enfeebling - has all of ours bar merit spells, Enhancing bar 1 merit spell - Whm still ahead, meleeing? Whm had Rdm stomped pre temper, and Melee mages are not viable on hard content. That leaves you with Refresh 2 (unneeded if you brought decent support) and Saboteur T2 Spells (and nuking, but if you cared about magic damage you'd bring Blm/Sch/Even Blu is better in terms of mp/damage ratio also for extremely low hate).