Cure V

[Quetzacoatl]

Cure V and tier V nukes are not the same. Tier V nukes are comparable to Cure VI.

Wait what? Feel free to laugh at me because I don't give a damn if you do, but do you mean -aja nukes aren't the equivalent of Cure VI and Curagas already? >_>

[Siiri]

Wait what? Feel free to laugh at me because I don't give a damn if you do, but do you mean Tier 2 Ancient Magic isn't the equivalent of Cure VI already? >_>

You mean they are both junk? I guess from that sense that is correct. Scholar too me is more the worry than red mage for Cure V. I would probably be ok with Red Mage having cure 5, mainly because having both red mage and white mage I know what a weak group healer red mage is. It's horrible to heal AOE damage on Red Mage. Scholar is right on the cusp of being overpowered though, always has been. If scholar had T5 nukes taken from them I would support them getting Cure 5, but not as is. Therein lies another problem, once a spell is given, it won't be taken away. Why SE is hesitating on giving Cure 5 out.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Wait what? Feel free to laugh at me because I don't give a damn if you do, but do you mean -aja nukes aren't the equivalent of Cure VI and Curagas already? >_>

Use your loaf.

Numbers aside in terms of how they work and how they've been placed.

Cure = (no nuke)
Cure II = (nuke tier I)
Cure III = (nuke tier II)
Cure IV = (nuke tier III)
Cure V = (nuke tier IV)
Cure VI = (nuke tier V)

[Quetzacoatl]

Use your loaf.

Numbers aside in terms of how they work and how they've been placed.

Cure = (no nuke)
Cure II = (nuke tier I)
Cure III = (nuke tier II)
Cure IV = (nuke tier III)
Cure V = (nuke tier IV)
Cure VI = (nuke tier V)

Sure, from a listing standpoint.

Do Healing-to-Damage though, and it should look like this:

Cure = (nuke tier 1)
Cure II = (nuke tier II)
Cure III = (nuke tier III)
Cure IV = (nuke tier IV)
Cure V = (nuke tier V)
Cure VI = Comet

[Swords]

I think he was talking in terms of numbers, Tier III Nukes roughly have comparable numbers with Cure IV, in a sense Tier V nukes would probably measure up to Cure VI just based on numbers alone.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Cure 5 and Flash would like a word with you about spells not being taken away.

[Siiri]

Cure 5 and Flash would like a word with you about spells not being taken away.

How long ago did that happen? Sounds good though, time to start my drive to have T5 nukes taken from scholar. LOL

[saevel]

How long ago did that happen? Sounds good though, time to start my drive to have T5 nukes taken from scholar. LOL

He's being dishonest.

RDM was on the scroll in name only, the game's level wasn't high enough for RDM to actually use the scroll. When RoTZ was released they upped the level cap and removed RDM from the scroll. No RDM has ever actually learned Flash / Cure V / Diaga II. SE didn't "take them away" they prevented us from getting them in the first place.

[Hyrist]

I'd like to have flash back... or something along the same style of potency to reduce the damage of a TP attack.

[Quetzacoatl]

I think he was talking in terms of numbers, Tier III Nukes roughly have comparable numbers with Cure IV, in a sense Tier V nukes would probably measure up to Cure VI just based on numbers alone.

I figured as much, but the advantage BLMs and WHMs would still have are Aga's, -ja nukes and Cure VI. While Minimal, it still helps to edge out the power RDM would have with Tier 5 nukes (especially since viable RDM Melee being on par with BLU's Melee capabilities will apparently never see the light of day according to Square).

You mean they are both junk? I guess from that sense that is correct. Scholar too me is more the worry than red mage for Cure V. I would probably be ok with Red Mage having cure 5, mainly because having both red mage and white mage I know what a weak group healer red mage is. It's horrible to heal AOE damage on Red Mage. Scholar is right on the cusp of being overpowered though, always has been. If scholar had T5 nukes taken from them I would support them getting Cure 5, but not as is. Therein lies another problem, once a spell is given, it won't be taken away. Why SE is hesitating on giving Cure 5 out.

I didn't mean Ancient Magic, I meant -ja spells. Guess you beat me to the punch though. And Cure VI being junk in Abyssea? I haven't heard that one before...no, seriously, I haven't. With high-HP DDs and near-one-shot TP Moves coming around, how would it be?

If Cure V is given to RDM, then something of equal ridicule should have to be given as well to balance it out, right? ;\