Ideas for Paladin Modification

[Blaksen]

Since Abyssea seems to be Paladin's main problem, I was thinking that adding new Atma designed to help the job DD tank in the zones would assist it greatly.

For example Atma of Monkey Grip: Allows the character to wield a 2 handed weapon with a shield. Along with stats somewhat comparable to high level atma like VV RR and Paladin would have a much better chance of keeping hate.

[Zagen]

Since Abyssea seems to be Paladin's main problem, I was thinking that adding new Atma designed to help the job DD tank in the zones would assist it greatly.

PLD was out dated as a tank in almost every event before Abyssea the difference back then a lot of people didn't want to risk it either due to fear or poor support for a nonPLD tank.

[Greatguardian]

PLD was out dated as a tank in almost every event before Abyssea the difference back then a lot of people didn't want to risk it either due to fear or poor support for a nonPLD tank.

This.

The only thing that prevented PLD from being more widely obsolete pre-Abyssea was people. It was all in the mind. Groups that weren't afraid of change were using DD tanks years ahead of Abyssea.

[Aeonk]

This.

The only thing that prevented PLD from being more widely obsolete pre-Abyssea was people. It was all in the mind. Groups that weren't afraid of change were using DD tanks years ahead of Abyssea.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say it was that jobs were more well defined in whatever niche role they filled in prior endgame. But they were still capable of crossing the line per se.

Pre-Abyssea when you heard DRK what popped into your head? Zerging. It was what DRK was used for, and that was fine. A good DRK knew how to tank, and tools like Apoc generally help. But that was more the player than the job's specifications.

RDM tanking was rather popular on mobs that Atonement spam wasn't applicable on. And at the end of the day, it took a good RDM to tank. Not one that grew up as a Refresh/Haste bot.

I'm pretty sure there's a video floating around Youtube somewhere of a BLM/NIN tanking Byakko. Any job can be thrown into a tank role, provided the player knows how to tank and has adequate support to do it. PLD was just the default tank because they were easier to gear (homam, MDT, fire resist: done) and easier to play. And it was sufficient, it wasn't detrimental to have a PLD over another job. May not of been 100% optimal but it easily got the job done.


Now with abyssea, damage has spiked so high that it is quite literally the only hate tool that makes sense to use. Thus making the average turtle PLD not just obsolete, but incapable of tanking at all.

[Bilonn]

Since Abyssea seems to be Paladin's main problem, I was thinking that adding new Atma designed to help the job DD tank in the zones would assist it greatly.

For example Atma of Monkey Grip: Allows the character to wield a 2 handed weapon with a shield. Along with stats somewhat comparable to high level atma like VV RR and Paladin would have a much better chance of keeping hate.

Or instead of an atma, since this is to fix a specific job, make it a job trait of some kind. Give it to PLD at .. say Lvl 60, that a shield can be equipped along with a 2-h weapon, such as a polearm or greatsword. It shouldn't do very much, though it might take a tiny graphical tweak to draw the shield on the back of the hand while using 2-h weapon--maybe changing stances so the shield doesn't block the face of the char. But make a trait this way.

This won't fix the job, but it would be a unique addition for a pld--giving a little more to them...