T2 VNMs in abyssea still over camped as ever.

[Zumi]

Moving the spawn location of VNMs did nothing for all the people still camping these.

People need these for various reasons upgarde to T3 for colorless souls for shield/harp, and some people camp them for body seals. During the off hours mid afternoon 4 groups trying to claim this.

Here is a pic from mid afternoon of all the people trying to claim this.



Can you please add more spawns for T2s this is getting pretty ridiculous and one of the worst bottlenecks left in abyssea. Especially when you have a nin/dnc taking around 15 min to solo it.

The change in the last patch moving their spawn point around did absolutely nothing for congestion.

[Kimble]

Running into people who are camping it for seals shouldn't be much of a problem if you are after T3 upgrade and visa-verse. Team up with them and you get what you want, and they get what they want.

[Zumi]

Doesn't really work out too well, you can team up with one group but they will still try to out claim all the other groups and often you won't be the one to claim it because they are trying to out claim the other people.

This does work if there is only 1 group there and they are a seal group but that rarely is the case.

[Arcon]

I don't think moving the spawn point had anything to do with congestion. I hoped moving the spawn point would address stuff like, making Gamayun move up the waterfall, or Chione up the cliff, which was really annoying.

Speaking of which, where do Gamayun and Koios spawn these days? Only did Chione since update.

[Kimble]

I think I just got lucky and ran into nice people when it came to them just wanting seals. If they popped and upgraded due to comp, they would just let us use their t3 pop as long as we stayed to keep trying to upgrade our t2s

[svengalis]

I don't think moving the spawn point had anything to do with congestion. I hoped moving the spawn point would address stuff like, making Gamayun move up the waterfall, or Chione up the cliff, which was really annoying.

Speaking of which, where do Gamayun and Koios spawn these days? Only did Chione since update.

Not sure about gamayun but koios spawns around flux 2 and 5.

[Olor]

I dunno, just got my ballad harp - when I first got there someone was duoing the VNM, I asked them if they needed the harp, they said no, they wanted upgrade. They finished the NM pretty quickly. They did another pop, I just soloed, then they sent me a tell saying they had got the upgrade.

I camped next two spawns, no harp drop. Then someone else got a spawn, I sent them a tell saying "you after the harp? If not want to team up?" and they didn't reply. So next spawn, I got the spawn and soloed it down, got the harp.

About half an hour later I got a tell from the first person I had spoken to asking me if I still needed the harp. So not really hard to get, people are happy to give it away.

Moral of the story, although I have definately seem some VNMs really camped (Koios), it seems as people get the content they want in a little bit of time, a lot of the NMs are not very camped. I spent a whole day soloing VNM and timed NMs in La Thiene. I got all sorts of the drops I didn't want (didn't get cape or boots I wanted, but whatever), and never had competition for any of the nms or VNMs at any point (well someone was killing Mangy Marvin or whatever that rabbit's name is at one point, but I just went and popped T3 VNM instead)

[Arcon]

Moral of the story, although I have definately seem some VNMs really camped (Koios), it seems as people get the content they want in a little bit of time, a lot of the NMs are not very camped. I spent a whole day soloing VNM and timed NMs in La Thiene. I got all sorts of the drops I didn't want (didn't get cape or boots I wanted, but whatever), and never had competition for any of the nms or VNMs at any point (well someone was killing Mangy Marvin or whatever that rabbit's name is at one point, but I just went and popped T3 VNM instead)

The problem with overcamping is only in the three Heroes zones: Altepa (Koios), Uleguerand (Chione) and Grauberg (Gamayun). The other zones are irrelevant, because they don't drop Colorless Souls, which is what this is all about.

[Rearden]

Guess you are unaware of +2 item drops in Abys-Vunkerl? lol.

Anyway, that picture has hardly anyone in it. In fact, I would have called that "no competition" when I was camping mine.

[Monchat]

The devs clearly do not care about people upgrading shield or harpe. They did everything to simplify the work of people working on body seals, Now its easier to farm body seals this way rather than pop NMs and harder to farm colorless souls. I called it and speed farmed my 75 the week before the update, I knew it would be fucked up.