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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    To some of the previous posters...

    You people sure know how to make the rest of us look really bad. Why should they listen to us at all sheesh... the world does not revolve around us and no one else. I accept that. You people can't. You aren't part of the dev team... you don't know how much time and work they've already invested... I just can't believe you'd say such stuff to other people...
    Yeah, I mean, who are we? We're just the ones playing and paying for the game that they're developing (for us). Why should they listen to us?
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    When I go to a restaurant and get bad service, odds are I don't go back. Same applies to the MMO scene. People wanting their money's worth isn't an evil, and in this current economic situation, quality entertainment is needed now more than ever.

    Overall, I'm of the mind FFXI can be a much better game than it is now, but it's hard to feel that'll ever happen if we're running on a skeleton crew and a smaller budget with a guy in charge that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in players between XIV's problems and past history in XI itself. It's not so much that we want to hate him, but we're lacking reasons to love.
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    Last edited by Seriha; 10-02-2011 at 02:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Howdy! As you have already noticed, Producer Tanaka has made a post in response to questions on the forum as to why we don’t see more posts from the producer on the FFXI forums.

    Thanks for the translation work, but I’d like to touch it up a bit^^ Otsukare Google-san.
    Camate, the posts in this thread are what we want an answer to. Why is XI running with a skeleton crew of developers when it has 10x, if not more, subscribers than XIV? I don't speak for everyone, but I do speak for a majority when I say I will never play XIV again. I don't like it, it's not good, it can't be good. XI is what I like, and unless it's an XI port than I am not interested.

    The above statement, in concurrence with this press release from a few days ago:
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoichi Wada
    The Final Fantasy name has been "greatly damaged," due to the troubled Final Fantasy XIV, Square Enix admitted today at a Tokyo press conference.

    Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada said that the entire Final Fantasy franchise has been affected by the shortfalls of the MMO title, according to an Andriasang report.

    "The Final Fantasy brand has been greatly damaged," he said. "We'll continue with our reform work, which basically amounts to fully redoing the game, and hope to revive the FFXIV that should have been released."

    Released last September on PC, the MMORPG saw launch problems, thanks to stability and performance issues.

    The PlayStation 3 version of the game was later delayed, as the development team attempted to improve certain elements of the game "to meet customer expectations."

    And as the publisher chose to delay charging players any subscription fees to play the game, Square Enix reported declines in fiscal year sales and profits.

    Producer Naoki Yoshida then revealed that the company was laying out an extensive list of gameplay changes, all planned for the title through the summer.
    We will continue playing this game as long as it is fun and new content comes out, but we want expansions, real ones. Updated graphics. The loss of support for certain platforms. We want to have a better discussion about "Why Pining Nocturne and Addle can't stack" than just the DEVs talking about it amongst themselves.

    We don't want to keep paying for XIV to get developed with our subscription fees because it will never, ever be a success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    So, to clear things up:

    FFXIV - extremely large dev crew for 30,000 customers.

    FFXI - extremely small dev crew for 300,000 customers.
    FFXI doesn't need anything but content here and there. It's 10 years old.

    FFXIV needs foundation work and content.

    Which of the two needs more attention?

    Chocies....Choices....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    We will continue playing this game as long as it is fun and new content comes out, but we want expansions, real ones.
    Pretty sure there's not enough players for XI nor development cost to justify a release of real expansion packs.

    Remember, EQ is old but their new expansion packs are basically the sizes of DLC type content, which is what FFXI is technically moved into. Your fellow gamers have proven they want the DLC type system for all games or else they wouldn't have been buying DLC developers released.
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    Last edited by Elexia; 10-02-2011 at 02:10 AM.
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    Pretty sure there's not enough players for XIV to justify the continuing development or release of additional content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Pretty sure there's not enough players for XIV to justify the continuing development or release of additional content.
    Considering it's being redone for a PS3 release, it's actually a lot more justified and makes sense compared to releasing it on the PS3, get a boost of players, then make content since people love to leave MMOs with no content, which FFXI has no worries because to someone just joining they have an overwhelming amount of content they can do whether or not the gear is outdated or useful. If they were charging for XIV then it wouldn't be justified. XI is in the stage all older MMOs go through that lost a lot of players, it still gets content but full blown expansion packs can't be justified.

    As much as I'd want a new one, it really can't be.
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    I highly doubt there are hundreds of thousands of raving fans that only play on the PS3 or are waiting for PS3 release that don't fall into one of two categories.

    1: People who already play XI

    2: People with brains

    I also highly doubt there are hundreds of thousands of people waiting to play XIV period.
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    One game makes SE money.
    The other game costs SE money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juxtaposition View Post
    One game makes SE money.
    The other game costs SE money.
    This. This this this this this.

    The problem with FFXIV, is that the MMO scene is very different than when FFXI was released. Regardless of what SE does to the game, it will never be able to achieve the sort of popularity that they had expected it to reach on release. A majority of the people who SE was trying to target are going to play the game once, hate it, quit, and forget it even existed. All the updates in the world won't change that.

    Regardless of the flaws that FFXI had upon release, the game was welcomed and it had a very strong user base on release. That's how it was able to maintain popularity regardless of fundamental gameplay issues.
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    Lol @ Tanaka, no wonder the patch was lackluster riddled with horrible droprates and sidegrade gear, all aboard the fail boat!

    Big mistake at upper management for that blunder.
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