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[FrankReynolds]

To some of the previous posters...

You people sure know how to make the rest of us look really bad. Why should they listen to us at all sheesh... the world does not revolve around us and no one else. I accept that. You people can't. You aren't part of the dev team... you don't know how much time and work they've already invested... I just can't believe you'd say such stuff to other people...

I know how much time / money I've invested. I am the customer. The world revolves around me.

[Olor]

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Um, don't care about your post but Lagunitas is YUMMY!

[Risae]

Which stuff exactly? I for one am sure the developers are working very hard. If it were my decision? I'd tell the players to suck it up, we're done updating the game, our developers have given you ten years of effort, enjoy what you have, there's much of it.

But that's not how it works. Because we were supposed to move on to the next game when we did everything there was to do in this one, but we don't want to because by their own admission it is not good.

A simple look at the system put forward for how we get responses explains so much of this. Did you note it? Nothing gets back to us without nearly everyone on staff having their say. This is okay, but we don't get multiple opinions directly. We don't get any chance to 'convince' or make points. I am not so naive as to believe that if Producer Tanaka doesn't 'feel like something fits the vision for the game' that the 'consensus' won't be that we just can't have it.

If anything I feel sorry for the devs, the community team here, and the players as well. I'd just take everyone and send them over to FFXIV staff and let them get paid to do what would hopefully be less work, more fulfilling work, instead of listening to people like me whine about them not managing to balance a game that they're mostly just stretching thin.

I have a fairly good idea how much time and work they have invested. If anything, I am in mourning for all the great ideas they have put forth over the years that got left behind for reasons unknown. This game already has all the systems needed to make it enjoyable, but we keep getting new systems that we complain about.

That's not a good sign and my heart goes out to the developers.

[xbobx]

Welcome to their job, what they get paid for. It is part of the territory. It is there job to make an enjoyable game for us, their customers. Some of you act like they are doing a favour for us. They are not, we are doing them a favour by paying subscription fees to pay their game.

I don't know how or when customers become the ones that should suck up to corporations, it is supposed to be the other way around.

[Eradius]

A closed forum for them to look over as they please?

Very nice, I was under the impression the community team had to politely badger via email or some contact method, but its nice to know everything gets filtered and that the developers are checking what is delivered regularly!

[Solonuke]

Using a forum while developing stuff where normal mortals are not allowed is normal.

[Vold]

So, to clear things up:

FFXIV - extremely large dev crew for 30,000 customers.

FFXI - extremely small dev crew for 300,000 customers.


As we all can see, the most popular of the two clearly has the commanding lead in developer suppor-

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[Elexia]

So, to clear things up:

FFXIV - extremely large dev crew for 30,000 customers.

FFXI - extremely small dev crew for 300,000 customers.

FFXI doesn't need anything but content here and there. It's 10 years old.

FFXIV needs foundation work and content.

Which of the two needs more attention?

Chocies....Choices....

We will continue playing this game as long as it is fun and new content comes out, but we want expansions, real ones.

Pretty sure there's not enough players for XI nor development cost to justify a release of real expansion packs.

Remember, EQ is old but their new expansion packs are basically the sizes of DLC type content, which is what FFXI is technically moved into. Your fellow gamers have proven they want the DLC type system for all games or else they wouldn't have been buying DLC developers released.

[Atomic_Skull]

FFXI doesn't need anything but content here and there. It's 10 years old.

FFXIV needs foundation work and content.

Which of the two needs more attention?

The one that's actually making money.

Pretty sure there's not enough players for XI nor development cost to justify a release of real expansion packs.

MMOs with less subscribers than FFXI still get expansions. FFXI's subscription base is still respectable for a non WoW MMO.

[Seriha]

When I go to a restaurant and get bad service, odds are I don't go back. Same applies to the MMO scene. People wanting their money's worth isn't an evil, and in this current economic situation, quality entertainment is needed now more than ever.

Overall, I'm of the mind FFXI can be a much better game than it is now, but it's hard to feel that'll ever happen if we're running on a skeleton crew and a smaller budget with a guy in charge that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in players between XIV's problems and past history in XI itself. It's not so much that we want to hate him, but we're lacking reasons to love.