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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    I'm like 100% positive THF Set bonus is ~6% proc rate on triple attack procs, So realistically you have like a 1.8% or much much lower Chance for THF Set bonus to proc with 5/5 set outside Abyssea. If its 10%, I'd like to know where that testing was done, and a link to the results.

    Assuming you have Merits and +2 Head (Full set derp), thats 13% Triple Attack on THF. 5% of that is what.. 0.8% or so for THF Set bonus to proc? yah. have fun with that.

    Even with
    Triplus
    +2 head
    Epona's
    Raider's Earring

    You're only at 20% Triple Attack, which is roughly 1% (2% if the "10%" rate is true, which is still under half of what PLD has) Chance for THF Set bonus to to proc with 5/5+2 armor.

    Does it even matter? Is taking hard these days? I'm just curious why anyone cares about the proc rate on the set. Its a set BONUS, its just a Bonus to the other stats on the armor. You could have NO set bonus? 5% is better than 0%. While 10 would be nice, its not needed, and a bit unrealistic.

    even so, I don't think i've ever been in a situation where the PLD Set bonus would have mattered or been life or death anyway, I think its a really nifty set bonus too, a lot better than some set bonuses (I'm looking at you MNK and NIN's)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I'm like 100% positive THF Set bonus is ~6% proc rate on triple attack procs, So realistically you have like a 1.8% or much much lower Chance for THF Set bonus to proc with 5/5 set outside Abyssea. If its 10%, I'd like to know where that testing was done, and a link to the results.

    Assuming you have Merits and +2 Head (Full set derp), thats 13% Triple Attack on THF. 5% of that is what.. 0.8% or so for THF Set bonus to proc? yah. have fun with that.

    Even with
    Triplus
    +2 head
    Epona's
    Raider's Earring

    You're only at 20% Triple Attack, which is roughly 1% (2% if the "10%" rate is true, which is still under half of what PLD has) Chance for THF Set bonus to to proc with 5/5+2 armor.

    Does it even matter? Is taking hard these days? I'm just curious why anyone cares about the proc rate on the set. Its a set BONUS, its just a Bonus to the other stats on the armor. You could have NO set bonus? 5% is better than 0%. While 10 would be nice, its not needed, and a bit unrealistic.

    even so, I don't think i've ever been in a situation where the PLD Set bonus would have mattered or been life or death anyway, I think its a really nifty set bonus too, a lot better than some set bonuses (I'm looking at you MNK and NIN's)
    Nitpicking really, but Triple Attack will almost always have more chances to proc than a PLD getting hit. I don't care either way personally its a fun bonus on either job, which is what it feels like it was meant to be.

    The only issue I have with set bonus stuff really is stuff like RDM's Bonus. 100% proc while Composure is up compared to the 5% proc or 5% proc of a proc sets seems unfair. But even then I don't have much of an issue because that would just lead to a nerf and not a buff.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    I'd rather have seen a higher set proc rate (10%), and just have it negate damage rather than heal, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I'm like 100% positive THF Set bonus is ~6% proc rate on triple attack procs, So realistically you have like a 1.8% or much much lower Chance for THF Set bonus to proc with 5/5 set outside Abyssea. If its 10%, I'd like to know where that testing was done, and a link to the results.
    This is very possible. I just went by a couple of really old tests (with low-ish sample sizes, so the margin of error was huge) combined with my assumption that proc rates that depend on other proc rates would be higher. That makes the most sense, right?

    I forgot that this is FFXI, however, where nothing ever has to make sense. Up is down and down is an egg sandwich. Proc rates on all Empyrean armor could very well be ~6% across the board regardless of what they do or when they do it.
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