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Thread: Alexandrite V2

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    Alexandrite V2

    Another Alexandrite post incoming!

    Currently, on my server at least, buying Alexandrite is really hard. There is almost never a supply and there are an obscene amount of people upgrading mythics (at least 10+ other people that I know of) and trying to buy whenever they can. The price for Alex has risen to ridiculous amounts, people are now selling for 17~20k each and are actually being bought by the JP community. This is a problem because the effort required to create these weapons is not even close to the reward you are given. A lot of these weapons (with a few being an exception) are severely underpowered compared to their Empyrean or Relic for the weapon type. Let's do a breakdown of what it costs currently with these new prices and current prices:

    Current price (10,000 per Alexandrite)
    = 300,000,000 gil to complete.
    New prices (17,000 per Alexandrite)
    = 510,000,000 gil to complete.

    Those prices can obviously be brought down by spamming the lovely and FUN event called... Salvage! For just 1 hour and 30m of your time you can repeat the same monotonous event OVER AND OVER for 70~150 alex a run! That way it can take you over 10 months just to complete this weapon.

    10 months to complete a weapon that doesn't perform on the level of a weapon that takes two weeks or less to make.

    Possible solutions:

    1. Make Mythic weapons require less Alexandrite
    2. Increase the supply of Alexandrite through other means than Salvage (Nyzul Isle if they are planning to adjust it for new level increase)
    3. Make Mythic weapons actually worth the price tag/time investment.

    Also I see the other thread was locked, I don't understand why you can't have Alexandrite turned into pieces of 100 like currency so you can save inventory space. Or you could change the stack from 99 to 999 or something.

    Thanks.
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    If it's so "underpowered" then why are you bothering to make one? One of the joys of supply and demand.
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    The obvious solution is they would have to make salvage more desirable, so people actually want to do it.
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    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarahs View Post
    If it's so "underpowered" then why are you bothering to make one? One of the joys of supply and demand.
    I want to, that is reason enough.
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    Reposting, for great justice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I do hope that if you took the time to lock my thread, you took the time to take the OP to the devs, SE.

    Simplest solution I can think of for Alexandrite is to turn it into a points reward system like Cruor, lets say Remnants Tokens. That way rather than Alexandrite being a competitive element of Duties, Tasks and Deeds, it becomes something you can do as a team. Obviously Alexandrite would already be left in the game and we'd all be stuck with stacks upon stacks of worthless stones, unless SE adds an option to Zasshal (or Ghanraam) to trade Remnants Tokens for Alexandrite. You'd still be in competition with others to buy from Bazaars, but at the very least you can triple your Alexandrite drop rate per run.

    Just to flesh it out a bit more (and repost my stacking system which has pointlessly been locked):
    -Every mob in Salvage drops ~100 Remnants Tokens, Gears/etc. ~150, NMs ~250, zone bosses ~500.
    -Every 100 Tokens can be traded to Zasshal for 1 Alexandrite.
    -100 Alexandrite can be traded for a 100 piece Alexandrite.
    -Every 10,000 Tokens can be traded for a 100 piece Alexandrite.

    With that, every Salvage run would earn you alone about the same 70 Alexandrite average, but every individual earns that same amount. The Salvage aspect of the quest becomes a collaborative effort like the rest and the amount of Alexandrite in Bazaars should at least triple. If you have friends simply helping you with Alexandrite, you earn at least 210 Alexandrite a run, if not you're earning what you currently get before splitting. A win win situation, no?
    It still wouldn't remove the fact that the Alexandrite section is ridiculously disproportionate to the rest (150,000 Nyzul tokens needed, 3,000,000 Remnants tokens...), but it's the best I can come up with for what they've already given.

    So, SE, feel free to lock and ignore this now.
    Obviously numbers there are just there for simplicities sake, if something like this were to happen, I'd expect an increased yield per run, rather than it remaining the same. And I think I mentioned it in a later post, but I'd keep Alexandrite drops and coin purses in place too. Salvage gear +1 places along side this would be perfect as well. People would be doing Salvage for the gear they never got, for the +1 items and for Mythic. At the very least supply would sky rocket, at this point I could care less about the price, I just want to see some Bazaars that actually stock the damn stuff.
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    Yeah there really is almost nobody selling them. Good ideas though.
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    Ichor to alex. I suggested it in the einherjar thread. Really nothing to use ichor on now @95, other than the eyepatch.
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    bump for visibility.

    @14,000/30,000
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    We can't let this dieeeee. Cmon people, I know 50 billion people are doing mythic.
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    What do you tell a white mage, who's a main white mage when they look at endgame weapons. They spend the hours helping every melee build empys and relics and seeing their output go through the roof. Then you hand them the empy staff and go here go stand in the corner with this laughable shiny. Then you ok well maybe a Mjollnir will be better but oh wait its another melee weapon for a WHM for crying out loud. SE what the hell do you think you're doing expecting a white mage to melee. So they're left with the mythic which currently has a 600 mil price tag if you buy from bazaars and a 1 and 1/3 year timeline if you dont pay a thing and do salvage everyday. This is not acceptable and while people are right its only a slight upgrade. Its embarassing to have a member of your group who loves a job not be able to get their only useful endgame weapon because of a price tag and self justification that the upgrade isnt worth the pricetag. SE waiting until Sept/Aug of next year is not acceptable you need to add a fix soon. This is ridiculous and the more you remain silent on it the more its frustrating people, breaking groups, and causing people to contemplate leaving your game because of the effort involved. I spent all weekend farming almost 30mil gil which was not easy and required me to be in game almost 30-40 hours. With this I was only able to buy around 1200 alexandrite. Which is 1/30th of your requirements. Even if you say oh well then thats only 30 more weekends of your time (almost a year) its not like its common to see 1200 alexandrite on the market and the prices went up by 5k after I bought those. This needs to be fixed, you need to stop hiding and you need to fix this.
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