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    Player Gallus's Avatar
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    Tanaka's not good for the game.
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  2. #22
    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    You say this so cavalierly, as though there wasn't such a thing as LS drama and politics in the past. I, for one, do not want to go back to a time where you had to apply to the right LS, kiss the right you-know-whats, and submit to the whims of a 15-year-old LS leader with a Napoleon complex in order to get the things you want from the game. I wanted nothing to do with that environment then, and sure don't want anything to do with it now. If that means getting ripped by idiots for wearing my AF3 +1 or +2 gear by 99, so be it. I will not compromise myself for digital trinkets. I didn't get into the game for that purpose.
    100% agreed, i have dealt with to many 8 year old i want my bottle leaders and overly greedy stuck up prick members who the only thing they care about is gearing them sevles and seek to do nothing but use and toss aside anyone that is not them or kiss there so to get gear like i dealt with on a previous server and shell, i do NOT want to have to deal with any more linkshells like this cause all it is s drama and more drama. i don't mind things being hard to obtain but if it means dealing with how it was back in 06-08 count me the f*** out, main reason why i have refused to bother with any high end linkshells since i moved here because i simply don't trust them anymore.

    But other then that, let's be honest here, if things DON'T change then this game is surely dead. if you can get everything in a week with new content what would be the incentive to even play this more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

  3. #23
    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    Fistandantilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    You say this so cavalierly, as though there wasn't such a thing as LS drama and politics in the past. I, for one, do not want to go back to a time where you had to apply to the right LS, kiss the right you-know-whats, and submit to the whims of a 15-year-old LS leader with a Napoleon complex in order to get the things you want from the game. I wanted nothing to do with that environment then, and sure don't want anything to do with it now. If that means getting ripped by idiots for wearing my AF3 +1 or +2 gear by 99, so be it. I will not compromise myself for digital trinkets. I didn't get into the game for that purpose.
    For all of you that feel that way I ask "What have you learned over the past year?" With all of the low man activities I would hope you learned to do things on your own, and in small groups. To think, and plan for yourself vs having a LS leader lead you around by the nose. I know I most certainly increased my knowledge of the game significantly over the past year.

    I'm sorry if you had bad experiences in the past when HNM lent itself toward mega LS's. I'll say it again though like I have a thousand times. Every LS out there was not pure evil. LS's are like Gf's & Bf's. You may get lucky, and fall in love with your 1st. However, chances are you are going to need to have a few before you find the love of your life.

    Going back to my initial point. If you are that convinced that every LS you ever apply to will be awful, and treat you badly because they are big meanies then start your own. All it takes is a few friends which is enough to static most anything in abyssea even for casual players. Pick a couple days a week to do Voidwatch, and shout in jeuno for extra bodies. You'd be surprised what you can accomplish with a little initiative.

    Getting started on Voidwatch:
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Voidwatch

    Voidwatch NM tree:
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...rious_Monsters

    You can do it if you give it a shot!
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  4. #24
    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    You say this so cavalierly, as though there wasn't such a thing as LS drama and politics in the past. I, for one, do not want to go back to a time where you had to apply to the right LS, kiss the right you-know-whats, and submit to the whims of a 15-year-old LS leader with a Napoleon complex in order to get the things you want from the game. I wanted nothing to do with that environment then, and sure don't want anything to do with it now. If that means getting ripped by idiots for wearing my AF3 +1 or +2 gear by 99, so be it. I will not compromise myself for digital trinkets. I didn't get into the game for that purpose.
    Like anything in life, one must do their research before making a decision. There are so many ways to check on a group's reputation these days that people who "submit to the whims of a 15 year old LS leader with a Napoleon complex" have nobody to blame but themselves for choosing wrong. There are plenty of linkshells out there with fair and equitable rules. I help lead one myself and there is literally no drama over loot. Assuming that there would be drama over the new LS-based content is inane anyway. How could there be Voidwatch drama when the loot pools are individual? Simple logic dictates.

    I also welcome a return to LS-based content but agree with the posters who are saying the Voidwatch loot system needs some adjustments.
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  5. #25
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    But other then that, let's be honest here, if things DON'T change then this game is surely dead. if you can get everything in a week with new content what would be the incentive to even play this more.
    I agree with this. The abyssea model doesn't work in a game with a low production budget because they can't pump out replacement content fast enough. Some kind of middle ground would be easily sustainable for ffxi though. NeoDyna/Relics are a reasonable grind now that will keep a lot of people playing for some time and that's the kind of model they should be using. Multiple medium level grinds for awesome gear that keep a semi-casual player busy for 2-4 months will extend the life of the game far more than 3 year grinds like 1500hmp and .2% drop rates on good gear from VWNMs. All these are going to do is discourage anyone but the hardcore players from even doing the content.

    For the semi-casual player this update amounts to nothing more than a level cap increase that they will be done with in 3 weeks max. It's the same reason people left this game in droves when they got to level 75, got basic gear for their job, and the only thing left for them to do was level another job or camp an HNM for 3 hours against 120 people.
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Bjorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    100% agreed, i have dealt with to many 8 year old i want my bottle leaders and overly greedy stuck up prick members who the only thing they care about is gearing them sevles and seek to do nothing but use and toss aside anyone that is not them or kiss there so to get gear like i dealt with on a previous server and shell, i do NOT want to have to deal with any more linkshells like this cause all it is s drama and more drama. i don't mind things being hard to obtain but if it means dealing with how it was back in 06-08 count me the f*** out, main reason why i have refused to bother with any high end linkshells since i moved here because i simply don't trust them anymore.
    But what about people who like huge mega shells, camping and endgame drama?

    Yes those people exist, I'm one of them.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 09-28-2011 at 03:29 AM.

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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Tanaka's not good for the game.
    I know right? Damn us for playing his game.
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    I know right? Damn us for playing his game.
    FFXIV was Tanakas game too, they still kicked his ass to the kerb for sucking.
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  10. #29
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    I wish we could start a "Remove Tanaka" petition that wouldn't get nuked instantly. I feel like he is reading all this and lowering VW drop rates while doing one of those insane laugh/crys.
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  11. #30
    Player Vortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    I wish we could start a "Remove Tanaka" petition that wouldn't get nuked instantly. I feel like he is reading all this and lowering VW drop rates while doing one of those insane laugh/crys.
    It is a thread with HIS name in the title. I am pretty sure he has read or was told about it already lol, the fact one of the posts was just modded provs that somone who has access to him saw it :l

    never mind the fact this is SEs forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

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