Current Empy 95 Price

[Malamasala]

'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.

I think the definition of "useful" is that it improves the party to invite one rather than leave the spot empty. The opposite is useless, and means that even if you invited the job, the party wouldn't do better.

Usually when people say "useful" they mean "ultimate" or "the best" or "overpowered". That is why so few jobs are "useful".

[Gotterdammerung]

'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.

Just because you suck at a job, doesn't mean the job sucks. You might come pup and be useless. But that doesn't mean PUP is useless. It just means YOU are useless on pup.

[Laitha]

Just because you suck at a job, doesn't mean the job sucks. You might come pup and be useless. But that doesn't mean PUP is useless. It just means YOU are useless on pup.

Yeah I agree with that statement. It seems with the advent of fast exp and fast power weapons you have alot of people that may have decent gear for jobs either really suck at them or play them at an average level. I still don't find many people who excel at playing a certain job. Just like you won't be seeing a great deal of people with 95 emp weapons. If you need heavy iron plates on carby I can help you farm them. I play BST and RNG exceptionally well.

[Arcon]

If it's required I'll be SMN. But it's not the job I like to play the most, that's still PLD solo. And I want gear for it, no matter how useless it is to everyone else on the game.

A job being more or less useful has nothing at all to do with what you wanna gear or play. Why would you wanna gear WHM? Light Staff and Noble's and you're fine for 98% of the content.

It's not about the "smartest choice". People can be very well aware of the smartest choice, but that's not what a game is about. A game is about playing, about doing what's fun. If it's fun to build an elemental nuking set for PLD/SCH to you, then go ahead with it and invest as much as you want in it. Be WAR or THF or WHM only to events, it doesn't matter and has nothing to do with what you go to these events for.

Saying it's pointless to gear SCH is like saying it's pointless to play FFXI. You'd be right on both counts, but it doesn't make it any more relevant. Playing games isn't about having a point, it's about what's fun. I hate saying it, because it's usually only used by idiots trying to justify their no-haste setup, but then again, I am arguing with Pimpchan..

[Zumi]

I think a lot of the disappointment comes from all the people who dual boxed a bunch of empyreans. Which was actually good for SE because I knew several people who paid for 2 accounts monthly just so they could get a bunch of easy af3 and empyreans from abyssea. Now SE is going back to the alliance style of events with voidwatch. When it seems a majority of people were able to dual box a level 90 empyrean and now they can't continue. Can't tell me all you dual boxers wouldn't be getting plates from VW could be dual boxed even if it was 1500 drops.

Most people now have really small linkshells don't have anywhere near 18 people because abyssea made it so you dual boxed or did stuff with like 3-6 people on average. Lots of people have quit FFXI, so yea its pretty hard to organize any large scale event. For the casual player which abyssea catered to void watch is just way to annoying to get 18 people together to do it.

[MarkovChain]

level 95 WHM is like an upgraded level 75 RDM with cure V-VI and 11 tick auto refresh instead of 3.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Pup isn't very useful or wanted in all but one event and only for procs, period.

[Gotterdammerung]

My pup isn't very useful or wanted when I play it.

Fixed.

Also, when did this thread turn into a "my opinion about which jobs have the biggest &*%$'s"

It's supposed to be about the insane cost of 95 emp upgrade. And the future for this trial after no one cares about voidwatch.

And on that topic:
I feel bad for almace/ochain plds. 3k plates just to get caught up and who knows what is coming for lvl 99.

P.S. I am also not looking forward to the emp prejudice that will plague main jobbers. Stuff like
" Ewww, you made a 99 twatstar?!. What a waste."
Mind your own business and just congratulate the guy on doing something you only wish you could do. Stop forcing your own narrow minded opinions about what is "the right way" on other people.

[Zagen]

Pup isn't very useful or wanted if you happen to have a job that is more useful available

Fixed.

Correctly Fixed.

The reality is this isn't 2005 if you only have 1 job leveled then sucks to be you. Trying to do Endgame with only 1 job available is stupid considering the ease of leveling and decently gearing any job thanks to Abyssea/GoV.

1500 plates from non-small man friendly events sucks. But I also didn't honestly expect Emp trials to stay as easy/fast as they have been all the way to 99.

[Insaniac]

Welp this thread has gone pretty far off topic.

I'm just here to agree with the 1500 plate requirement being pure insanity at this point. 150 plates would still be reasonably difficult but 1500 seems like the ramblings of a mad man. It's a total bait and switch. SE said they wanted empyreans to be a weapon for the casual player which they were until the 95 cap where they become a weapon for pretty much no one. I spent a couple weeks defending SE saying "Even though they have made some questionable decisions I don't think they are stupid enough to create a huge demand (2-3mil per server) for metal plates and then have the supply be limited in any way." Clearly I was wrong. Theycreated the demand and limited the supply beyond uor wildest dreams. This rivals and maybe even eclipses the 30k alexandrite requirement in stupidity. It's a classic Hiromichi Bottle neck to artificially extend the life of content. We finally had an ultimate weapon that didn't require outrageous amounts of gil or "abusing" a linkshell to get and people freaking loved it. SE made relics farmable lowman and there was much rejoicing. This move is beyond logic to me.