Current Empy 95 Price

[Kimble]

Just wondering, what events do you find worth doing? I'd assume Dynamis, anything else?

[noodles355]

Mercy stroke, what is it.

Now if you use dancing edge .

Whenever I think you couldn't get any more retarded, you make another post and my mind is blown yet again.

What you said was true, but completely irrelevant. That can be said for half your posts actually. The other half could be labled as not true, and also irrelevant.

[noodles355]

The discussion was about the critical hit bonus from dex, not the ws mods. I mainly considered the melee damage for one hand in order to compare. For melee damage, 1.5DMG+15 DEX versus 25 attack, I showed that 25 attack is better unless you can reach a high dDEX with it (40~50). On anything worthwhile ( lv 100+ mobs say) I doubt you get anything more than 2~3% crit rate. DEX builds require to sacrifice a lot, you hav a high dDEX most likely on mobs weaker than EP most likely, maybe esceptions.

For WS comparison its even easier since you ask the question. If you use dancing edge it is just 1.5DMG+15*0.3DMG ( more or less 6DMG) versus 25 attack. Here its even worse. I don't remember the precise figures of DEX CHR for today's THF, maybe 150 DEX and 70 lolCHR for WS? I remember having 130 ish at 75. This gives about 55 DMG. Not even considering fSTR yet, you see that this time for WS, 1 DMG is less than 1% increase since your base DMG will be above 100.

So 1.5 DMG+15 DEX=6DMG=less than 6% damage, while 25 attack is >6%. This is for when you main hand the dagger. If its is subhand the difference is even more in favor of kila+3 since sub hand is only one of the 6~8 hits of WS [ soin this case it is 15 dex versus 25 attack for all hits but one].

The exception would be of course if you use eviceration and main hand the dagger. But it will be weaker than dacing edge unless you have a high dDEX already. And if you have a high dDEX, you most likely have high dSTR already too, ie abyssea situation where we know killas arent very good. In an abyssea situation anyway, the +15 DEX on the weapon will not do much either lol, so the discussion is pointeless( 4 DMG versus 25 attack, kila+3 clearly loses). That's what I call situational.

Summary: high dDEX ( weak mobs, abyssea etc) DMG 49 DEX +15 main hand is good. Anything worthwhile or sub hand: no.


Im not saying that this new dagger sucks, saying its sats are totally unimpressing and the only good part is occasionally deals severe damge, which could be good or bad depending on wether it procs often or not... wait and see. it is stored in the "side grade" items for me.

Some nice info. I was just picking a hole in the "Adds +0% dmg to WS".

[Byrth]

There are some nice voidwatch pieces, and fortunately most of them are buyable so I don't have to do repetitive fights for shit drops. Did Zilart Tier 1/2 last night with two characters and made about 1mil, then bought a Mollusca Mantle that someone else got on the run and ended up down money for the night.

[Return1]

Seriously? MarkovChain is Pchan? Dear lord how did I not notice...Now I just feel silly, Pchan is the one of the top 3 trolls of FFXI.

Well I'm done with that.

My point that I've been trying to make is simple. This is endgame. It should be harder. Upgrades shouldn't get EASIER as you go along. On top of that, there should be some trials your average player can't do/doesn't want to do. Empyreans please casuals because they got something nice, and the 99 update should give the more dedicated something to do. It appeals to everyone but those that think they're the only one's whose opinions and gear matters.

The plates aren't even hard to get. People will team up to get them. They can be spammed as easily as Abyssea NMs. People keep saying people won't help each other, and that's why it'll take you longer to get yours. 18 people working together to get 1 emp upgrade at a time will get 18 95s done long before 18 individuals will get their 95s. This is the reason and motivation used to make a shell like I stated. People go on about me using people, but I have no intention of using them to get myself a 95 upgrade. I'd much rather help my friends get what they want, and make more friends along the way. I guess people aren't used to others not shitting all over them every chance they get.

[Doombringer]

i'm starting to see the plates in port jeuno for 500k.

just an update

[Return1]

You'd have to be stupid to pay 500k for them. People pricing them for 500k are just showing they have plates or trying to cash in off a new event. Sorta like how people were posting Blizzaja up for 5mil. Some people were actually dumb enough to pay 5mil for a shiny new thing they found, but the price has settled to about 900k. Same thing for Plates. By 2 months we'll see a going price of under 100k a plate.

[Atomic_Skull]

It's too bad that nobody use THF as DD and everyone uses THF as Treasure Hunter whore.

Mercy stroke, what is it. The truth is that someone semi serious about THF should be targetting it.

Pchan is a troll, nothing he says is consistent he just says whatever will stir up shit to get attention. He doesn't care that the attention is negative or that he's a verbal punching bag in every thread he posts in. It's all about attention. He's like a kid eating worms in class to get people to look at him.

Dancing Edge

Wait, people still use Dancing Edge. Good god why? WHYYYYYYYYYY?

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

[noodles355]

Because I'm pretty sure it's still stronger than Evisceration at 100%TP, although I could be wrong. It only seems to average higher for me at over 150-200ish TP. Slightly different WS sets of course for both.

Edit: Outside Abyssea of course.

[Byrth]

Dancing Edge is still better for Dancers by quite a bit, I think, mostly due to gear selection and base stats.