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  1. #161
    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    WoE popular? All I hear is people complaining about WoE and the only ones I know or heard of who are doing it are just doing it to sell the new scrolls from there. First time ever I'm hearing that someone actually likes WoE.
    They complain but still go. Flux 7 (good for coins) Flux 9 (easy for new drops) are both a race to get in and a race to rank enough to get a chest, sometimes not so heavily but enough are still doing it that winning is a guaranteed thing. At least for now that is the case.
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    I like WoE ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... as a smn
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  3. #163
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    I'm going to chime in too and express my annoyance that this is too much for a minor upgrade. Needing special currency and only realistically being able to buy your ultimate weapon with gil is what destroyed Relics and Mythics for most players. It's a practice that destroys teamwork and causes people to be selfish.

    Making gil in game is the same as real life just because you work hard doesn't mean you'll make those millions of dollars to be able to afford the mansion and Ferrari. Due to competition you're most likely average which means that you'll accumulate wealth at an average rate. As it stands in FFXI unless you have a lot of gil to invest, cheat by purchasing gil, or happen to be in the right place at the right time you won't be able to buy the limited quantity of currency (AKA Heavy Plates) in a timely manner. Anyone can finish this trial but only the very privileged will do it in a realistic time frame. As it stood most players did not enjoy the prospect of spending that much time to get a major upgrade (AKA Mythic and Relic weapons.) Odds are almost no one will do this next upgrade because of time constraints.

    You can hardly think that the majority of players are happy that you've turned Emp weapons into mini relics. SE needs to reconsider the amount of heavy metal plates or increase the rate and/or monsters they drop from. The majority of players are NOT happy to spend a massive amount of time competitively collecting gil to do a trial for a piece of gear!
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    Last edited by Orson; 10-01-2011 at 12:06 PM.

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    empyrean/relic/mythic weapons should level up with your character. otherwise we're all going to quit because of the SHEER DIFFICULTY!!!!1

    oh and relic weapons should also be free, they're unobtainable for people who aren't gilbuyers.

    also, make mythic weapons easier to obtain too, lower the alexandrite requirement to 3 which is a lot more realistic, and remove the rest of the quests because that's just artificial difficulty. it's also near impossible to obtain the base weapon because nyzul can't be brewed so i can't solo it on my monk. i say you just trade the 3 alexandrites and the npc lets you pick from a list of mythic weapons.

    wat say u guys? we should band together. say no to these impossible quests in game. it's our $13 we spend so we should get what we pays for!!!111!
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  5. #165
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    I'm going to break this down.

    Making gil in game is the same as real life just because you work hard doesn't mean you'll make those millions of dollars to be able to afford the mansion and Ferrari.
    1) No. No it's not. I have to go work for 8 hours a day for a few bucks an hour. I can farm up 1-5mil a day, in just a few hours a day, with a mule.

    2) You're going with a price that is not even decided yet, aqnd basing all of your assumptions off of it.

    3) You have no Idea what the upgrade to Emp weapons are, and you're already writing it off as minor, not even considering likely hidden boosts or future 99 boosts.

    4) Just because YOU think you/others won't do the upgrade doesn't mean others won't.

    People will make these fast and for cheap within 3 months.

    I also want to point out that VW is the first Endgame content we've received since the 75 cap was raised. Endgame is supposed to be harder, since that's the point of endgame. Endgame is not designed for everyone. This is a good thing. Everyone's getting something. Everyone has access to a passably strong weapon, and the dedicated get stronger weapons. The End.
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    I think that there should be a few near impossible goals in this game, not everything should be like this but there should be at least a few things like this for the hardcore players.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    ntent we've received since the 75 cap was raised. Endgame is supposed to be harder, since that's the point of endgame. Endgame is not designed for everyone. This is a good thing. Everyone's getting something. Everyone has access to a passably strong weapon, and the dedicated get stronger weapons. The End.
    Voidwatch is not endgame it's a bcnm lol. Faceplam. The gear is a downgrade/situational and it's only worth doing it to sell the crap. I think you don't know what endgame is.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 10-01-2011 at 02:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Voidwatch is not endgame it's a bcnm lol. Faceplam. The gear is a downgrade/situational and it's only worth doing it to sell the crap. I think you don't know what endgame is.
    What is end game then? Isnt it content you do when you reach the end of your leveling?
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  9. #169
    Player Return1's Avatar
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    Voidwatch is not endgame it's a bcnm lol. Faceplam. The gear is a downgrade/situational and it's only worth doing it to sell the crap. I think you don't know what endgame is.
    You're retarded. There's going to be at least 4 parts to VW. These fights are pretty much 95-99 only, and the parts 3 and 4 will be geared towards 99s most likely.

    I would just like to once again point out that you're stupid. It's a BCNM so it's not endgame? How is Sky/Sea/ZNM/Ouryuu/BahamutV2/Einherjar?

    All of those involve you spawning a powerful mob and killing it, just like VW.

    In fact, VW has its own powered up version of Kirin in Qilin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    I love how people are complaining about how awful the current EMP 95 upgrade is, but will argue against pooling because everyone is going to really go for it. Newsflash, most people will probably give up from QQ till the price inevitably falls through the floor.
    Idk who brought you here, but they need to return you to wherever you were before.
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