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    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Imo i feel this new 1500 item for empyrean is a step back for SE for a few reasons.

    atm the drop rate is something like 1 in 5 (inc pouchs) meaning you need to do around 7000 runs

    if on a good day you get a run done in 20 min it would take you 2333 hours to complete it if say you play this game 4 hours a day on average then your looking at 583 days to complete a weapon.

    Now here's the question i have for SE and i really think it's a fair one.

    Do you really feel it's healthy for a player to play Final fantasy for 30 hours a week for 2 years to obtain the upgrade from 90->95 ?


    Anyway i can see the reasoning SE added this

    1. To force people to do Voidwatch since nearly 50% of people have an emperyan so the content would be successful

    2. To balance relics/mythics with empyreans.

    With the first issue SE you need to look at the rates of drops on 1 chest per person considering you feel doubling the drop rate for 18 pple on a 1 chest system is fair when it really means it's nearly 9 x harder than if it was a shared pool

    Which means eventually people that miss out on the drops won't get them since 18 people don't have the time for such a low drop rate for one person.

    This is all VW/WoE stuff... and really should be addressed if you want to move people out of abyssea.

    With 2 and this is where i feel you have overlooked something.

    If you just made Relics/Mythics stronger and easier then you'd not annoy anyone infact you'd get people to keep playing ffxi.

    But by making so only 10% of the people that have empyrean will be able to upgrade to a 95 version you have annoyed 90% of the people that have existing empyreans and to some extent the 10% that will eventually make the 95s prolly wouldn't be to happy about the time they invested to complete them. since the upgrade is so weak...)

    I find it insulting that you ask me to put 1-2 years into weapon i have already made to 90 in a game i have put 6 years~ into already
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 10-12-2011 at 04:12 PM.
    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
    Server : Ragnarök
    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post

    Now here's the question i have for SE and i really think it's a fair one.

    Do you really feel it's healthy for a player to play Final fantasy for 30 hours a week for 2 years to obtain the upgrade from 90->95 ?
    They. Don't. Care.

    But they certainly do care about keeping you paying 11.95 a month for the next 2 years. And lets be honest, you will do this.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 10-12-2011 at 06:15 PM.

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    Player Staren's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Imo i feel this new 1500 item for empyrean is a step back for SE for a few reasons.

    atm the drop rate is something like 1 in 5 (inc pouchs) meaning you need to do around 7000 runs

    if on a good day you get a run done in 20 min it would take you 2333 hours to complete it if say you play this game 4 hours a day on average then your looking at 583 days to complete a weapon.
    I know you're upset about the requirement but you're also exaggerating drastically. If the drop rate was that low Niceguy wouldnt have even been able to buy or farm all the heavy metal plates he did in a week to finish his 95 Almace. You need to get in with a good VWNM group and do Qilins and you'll realize how much faster this actually is. Yes it may still cost you a month of playtime if you dont buy heavy metal plates but so do Empys when they first came out. If a month to two months of your time is not worth the weapon dont work on it until next update where I'm sure it'll be much easier to get.
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