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    Player Monchat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erics View Post
    With all this said.. I really want empyreans to get a nice boost then ... As was mentioned, Empyrean Weapons were only overpowered in abyssea.. Go outside, They are no longer "the girl next door," in a bunny outfit.
    Idk, Blade:hi, Victory smite and Ukon's fury are pure ownage even outside, and probably other. I do 2k+ victory smites when the next good WS, asuran fists, does 1~1.5k tops. that s +33% damg minimum. Not to mention the god mode aftermath.
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    I think your kidding youself if you think they are going to get a boost the odd on them is from 30% to 50% depending on tp what do you want it to be 75-100 % lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uptempo View Post
    I think your kidding youself if you think they are going to get a boost the odd on them is from 30% to 50% depending on tp what do you want it to be 75-100 % lol.
    You need to read what I typed. I said "I want" I am not saying "they are."

    EDIT: And isn't the odd a constant 30% TP just depends on how long it last?... I want proof before you start shouting "fake facts."
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    Last edited by Erics; 09-27-2011 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erics View Post
    You need to read what I typed. I said "I want" I am not saying "they are."
    Point still stands! What more do you want on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erics View Post
    You need to read what I typed. I said "I want" I am not saying "they are."

    EDIT: And isn't the odd a constant 30% TP just depends on how long it last?... I want proof before you start shouting "fake facts."
    You have a almace go test the damn thing you will see yourself nothing fake in what i stated.

    Also i said it depends on tp in the first post the only ones with constant odd are relics not that its hard to keep your aftermath up.
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    Last edited by uptempo; 09-27-2011 at 12:44 AM.
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    I gained a little faith when Asapanda (LSmate) got 12 Metal Plates yesterday while getting the clears for Zilart VW. While 1500 is a lot, its only a matter of time until you start seeing 95 emps. The JP community on Cerb does a very good job with VW, I'm sure we'll see some soon. Once the first couple 95s get done people will be more motivated.
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    Byrth, I would put the actual numbers closer to:

    Relic: 145h farming to get to loan stage @100c/h (2-3box)

    Emp: 168h to get to 90 stage on anything outside of LaTheine (For example, Ukonvasara)

    Even if you pull it back to 85 stage where the weapons become useful, you're still looking at near equal time requirements.

    The relic is going to take many weeks longer to complete than the Empyrean weapon, but in terms of total effort not so much.
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    Last edited by Rearden; 09-27-2011 at 01:20 AM.

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    I hate to agree with Pchan but as it stands outside of Sch's 2hour there's little reason to bring Sch or Rdm to party events other than VW procs. And you can cast Embrava outside of party iirc, so you don't even need Sch in the party to benefit from Embrava.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    I hate to agree with Pchan but as it stands outside of Sch's 2hour there's little reason to bring Sch or Rdm to party events other than VW procs. And you can cast Embrava outside of party iirc, so you don't even need Sch in the party to benefit from Embrava.
    Can bring one if you want.
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    'For the hell of it' doesn't make either useful; I could bring PUP for the hell of it if I want but it's still not going to be a useful job.
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