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  1. #241
    Player Gokku's Avatar
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    managed to nab 8 for 100k each , smithings been nice to me so ive got the gil to burn who ever said crafting is dead thank you because i have little to no comp on normal synths just people flooding synergy smithing on carby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    I can't believe there are people stupid enough to buy plates atm.
    I have all the useful buyable items in the game for my jobs, and I'm sitting on 30,000 Alexandrite waiting for Einherjar tokens. By the end of the month, I'll be done with every part of the Mythic except Einherjar tokens. Unless I want to drop my playtime down to a 30-minute twice-a-week event, I need a new project. I enjoy farming Dynamis. I enjoy making gil and being a shrewd little crafty taru. I don't enjoy doing it with literally no purpose though.

    I've already told you that I'm making gil twice as fast as I can spend it on the plates at 250k each, and my food/medicine overhead is covered by stuff I NPC. What should I do? Level and gear another job so I can fulfill the same party role in a slightly different way? Get a relic for my mule? Buy at a higher price? These are the alternatives I've considered.
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  3. #243
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    You could not be stupid with your money and set a lowered goal price, stockpile the gil, then go on a spending spree when the plates fall, saving time and money.

    I just hate how people are going on about how shitty 1500 plates are when they're willing to pay the retarded prices that come with the start of any new item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    You could not be stupid with your money and set a lowered goal price, stockpile the gil, then go on a spending spree when the plates fall, saving time and money.

    I just hate how people are going on about how shitty 1500 plates are when they're willing to pay the retarded prices that come with the start of any new item.
    Maybe because stockpiling gil and being hopeful doesn't inherently increase supply?

    There are two ways they could make this easier in the next patch:
    1) Make every Relics better than every Empyrean.
    2) Introduce larger pouches of Heavy Metal (currently it's 3~15, so make it 15~60).

    If that happened, I'd lose my investment and would effectively complete Twashtar 95 slower by the amount of time it takes me to make back the gil I lost. However, if that happens then the amount of gil required to complete Twashtar to 90 is fairly trivial, so it wouldn't take me long to get it (which is the goal). I don't want a relic. I have the Alexandrite for a Mythic. I can't buy any of the R/Ex drops I'm missing (Voidwatch). I'm obviously not alone among Empyrean owners in having nothing else to blow gil on.

    At the moment, I'm 25 plates in at about 220k/plate. If the price drops to 40k each (half a Relic, which would be impressive considering the 95 Empyreans crush many relics), I would lose 180k per plate. If I make 1.5~2mil per night and successfully buy one plate per night, then I'm effectively making 1.3~1.8mil per night after losses. If plate prices drop to 40k, and it's two months until the next update, then I'll have about 100 plates (18mil loss) and be sitting on 90 mil. 1400*40 = 56mil, so I guess I'll also buy a K-club to prox fastrar?
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  5. #245
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    I knew that would eventually happen. At 100k per plate it's pretty fast to upgrade while at the same it rejects 99% of the playerbase that have a hard time building gil so in the end voidwatch is only a money maker for those not willing to upgrade. Kinda ironic, isn't it ? Voidwatch is a money maker, period. Hopefully more people go farm them for us <3. I'm only 50 hundreds from spharai and after that, dynamis seems like a 3M per day constantly, and with other activities, I'll be doing maybe 4 M a day worth of junk = 40 plates/day when supply is enough , or 40 day for the trial. Hmm. Not too bad. I predict the first level 95 empy in 2 weeks. JP obviously.
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  6. #246
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    I'm just saying, the plates are only valued so highly because the less intelligent are actually buying them atm. If they quit or finish the price will drop because people won't pay such an idiotic price.
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    This toppic had such potential once we derailed it to evisceratioon vs dancing edge. It actually had people working together to figure stuff out. Looks like it's back on topic now, and the fail will recommence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    I'm just saying, the plates are only valued so highly because the less intelligent are actually buying them atm. If they quit or finish the price will drop because people won't pay such an idiotic price.
    So in a year+ when people like Byrth (not stupid just people with nothing better to spend gil on) finish it might drop down to 200k per plate? Sounds like a perfect system to me. Wait no... turning weapons that made a large portion of players happy into something that pisses off 99.9% of those players and is accessible to less than 1% of them is a monumental fail in game design. There's no intelligent defense for it.
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  9. #249
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    shit ill tell you right now with me needing 3000 of them if im the only one buying them for 100k its going to be years before the price drops on carby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    shit ill tell you right now with me needing 3000 of them if im the only one buying them for 100k its going to be years before the price drops on carby.
    lols, my Ukon is more than half done too. 2.5mil and another 3k tokens tonight. Saw one plate in a bazaar at 300k and really thought hard about buying it.
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