Current Empy 95 Price

[Atomic_Skull]

Because I'm pretty sure it's still stronger than Evisceration at 100%TP, although I could be wrong. It only seems to average higher for me at over 150-200ish TP. Slightly different WS sets of course for both.

Edit: Outside Abyssea of course.

For me Evisceration is anywhere from a bit higher than DE to much higher depending on crits. DE might be better for SATA but I haven't used either for SATA for many years now.

[noodles355]

I'l start parsing properly on the remaining dagger trials (mindless mob culling) and in dynamis etc, but so far DE has looked to average higher, and be more consistant. Been seeing 800-2000 EVs, averaging 1200ish, and 1100-1500 DEs, averaging 1300ish. It's all eyeballed of course so not actually worth anything, but it's given me an incentive to parse the 2 WS now outside abyssea.

[Yugl]

Or post optimal sets for both > Crank out values.

[Monchat]

Pchan is a troll, nothing he says is consistent he just says whatever will stir up shit to get attention.

Wait, people still use Dancing Edge. Good god why? WHYYYYYYYYYY?

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

lol, who is the troll. Hint: exit abyssea.

[noodles355]

Putting it into kinematics's spreadsheet, I get 543.593 Evisceration, 431.531 Dancing Edge. Wow. Not only is Evisceration stronger, but it is by a conciderable margin. I didn't use optimal gear, that was my current/short term aims gear.

Plugging in what I think is optimal (from what's available on the spreadsheet) I get 852.515 for Evisceration and 665.853 for DE. Gear used was:
Evis:
Mandau(90)/Str Kila+2/Raiders
Aias/Rancor/Pixie/Brutal
Toci's/AF3+2/Thundersoul/Rajas
Atheling/Cuchulains/AF3+2/Hecatomb+1
DE:
Mandau(90)/Str Kila+2/Raiders
Aias/Love/Delta/Brutal
Toci's/AF3+2/Airy/Rajas
Atheling/Anguinus/Tumbler/Hecatomb+1

Interesting. That goes completely against what I was eyeballing.

[MarkovChain]

Is the crit rate on evisceration known ?

[noodles355]

I'm not sure. But now I'm looking at the Evisceration page of his spreadsheet and I'm confused. I think it's set to have 95% Crit rate at 136% Crit damage, which is obviously completely wrong. But if that's the case it would explain why I'm eyeballing a quite noticable higher average from DE over Evis, yet why the spreadsheet says Evis shits all over DE.

Link to xls: https://docs.google.com/#folders/0B0...MwMDI1N2VkYWZk

[Neisan_Quetz]

Going by a blog on the triteness of weaponskills evis should be 10% @ 100% TP iirc.

[noodles355]

If the 95% cells in the spreadsheet is infact making it calulate evis with a 95% crit hit rate, and if I change them down to 10%, then the opposite happens and with both my gear, and with perfect gear, DE shits all over Evis.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Might be considering Striking/TA/SA? Never noticed that personally but I have an old version. Can ask Kinematics about if there's an error on the sheet.